Texas, Indiana, South Dakota Push for Permitless Carry

Written by AWR Hawkins at Breitbart, 12-4-16:

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“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…” -George Washington, First Annual Address, January 8, 1790

 

Lawmakers in Texas, Indiana, and South Dakota are in a race to make their respective state the 13th state to abolish a concealed carry permit requirement.

The push is being sponsored by Republicans in every instance, all of whom are pushing to recognize the Second Amendment as a sufficient concealed carry permit in and of itself.

In Texas, the push is being spearheaded by state representative Jonathan Stickland (R-92nd) via HB 375. The text of HB 375 is clear: “Notwithstanding any other law to the contrary, a person who is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing a firearm shall not be required to obtain any license to carry a handgun as a condition for carrying a handgun.”

In Indiana, the push to abolish a concealed carry permit requirement is being sponsored by Jim Lucas (R-Seymour). CBS 4 reports Lucas’ belief that it is “immoral” to require law-abiding citizens to get a concealed carry permit before being allowed to exercise their Second Amendment right to bear arms. And he equates a permit requirement with criminalizing law-abiding citizens in that it “[forces] an innocent person to jump through hoops and pay money to the state to prove their innocence and exercise a constitutional right.”

In South Dakota, the permitless carry effort is being led by state representative Lynne DiSanto (R-35th). She believes permitless carry is the kind of carry “the Constitution intended.” According to the Associated Press, DiSanto has the practical hope that removing the permitting cost and hassle will make it easier for South Dakota residents to keep and carry gun for defense of themselves and their families.

Twelve states currently recognize permitless carry: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Vermont, Wyoming, and West Virginia. It should be noted that there are certain parts of Arkansas and Montana where a permit is required, but the vast portion of both states–99.4 percent, according to Gun Owners of America–is permitless.

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Earlier this year, GOA executive director Erich Pratt said “Law-abiding citizens should not have to ask for permission to exercise a constitutionally-protected right. That’s the beauty of Constitutional Carry, it honors the Second Amendment which says the right to keep and BEAR arms ‘shall not be infringed.’”

It’s been noted many times – the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.  There are more stories than we can count about the difference made when an armed citizen saw a crime being committed. With the increase in lone wolf attacks, more people need to be armed and it should be acceptable to carry everywhere, including college campuses, although there will be many that will continue to uphold the ban.

While I agree that it is our right to carry, unencumbered by the government, there are downsides to consider – training in particular. Not everyone is qualified to use a handgun, and just because they’re allowed to carry doesn’t mean they should do so without learning more about handguns.

Then there are the laws that vary from state to state regarding where and in what situations it’s acceptable to shoot an intruder or thief. Not all states have the castle law and citizens who aren’t aware of the gun laws in their state could end up in more trouble than they realize when defending their property.

While those issues are worrisome, we will have to accept and contend with them in order to fully experience the Second Amendment as it was intended.

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery”  – Thomas Jefferson, January 30th 1787

~Kathy



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10 replies

  1. This country survived 200 years without carry permitting. The Constitution does not qualify the right to keep and bear arms on any way and where the constitution remains silent, the power does not exist. Responsible adults will seek training. Millions of Citizens own firearms and do not have carry permits.

    Self defense and defense of our communities was the primary reason for the 2nd amendment and no permit was intended or required by the men who framed the boll of rights. I was taught by my father to shoot hand guns and taught at the local VFW as a Boy Scout to handle and shoot rifles.

    What we need is to teach our children self responsibility, adult mentoring along with organizations such as scouts, VFW, AL to be a five in our communities to pass these skills on. Permits do nothing to stop the irresponsible or criminals.

    We are self-governing people which means we already have the responsibility to be self-responsible with our decision to own, keep and bear firearms.

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    • Sorry for the typos, posted from my phone and the auto correct has a mind of it’s own.

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    • You are absolutely right, Aftershock, but what we need to do and what we should are a lot different from the reality that we have, thus making it a scary situation knowing that untrained people can legally carry.

      Scary or not, it is their right and can be a hazard, but like the saying goes…dangerous freedom.

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  2. Returning to Constitutional Law!
    In the same vein, did you read where 2 states are pursuing law that allows citizens to sue companies that do not allow firearms on their premises? That might throw water on ‘gun free zones’!

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    • No, I hadn’t seen that, tannngl. There are some places where it’s reasonable to not allow guns, such as courthouses and banks, so I hope it’s not an idiotic suit against one of them. Otherwise, it could indeed throw water on no carry zones.

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  3. Love the quote by Jefferson, Kathy.

    I agree with the misgivings that you and Garnet expressed; however, the concept of having to have a permit to carry a gun is certainly contrary to the “shall not be infringed” standard established under the Constitution, so as a matter of principle the permits should be not be required by law.

    I was surprised to see the rather long list of states that don’t require CC permits, and the fact that I was unaware of the different treatment of CC in these other states initially suggested to me that doing away with CC permits may not be as radical a change as I might have assumed. I don’t recall hearing about high levels of gun violence or gun accidents in these states, but I will note – and I think this is worthwhile to consider – that these states tend to have more conservative/libertarian populations and, at the risk of being falsely labeled as a racist, I’ll also note the FACT that their populations are largely white. We know from crime statistics (people lie, statistics don’t) that black males are responsible for a hugely disproportionate number of gun-related crimes in this country. It’s understandable that their co-citizens want to see them stripped of their guns, even if it’s misguided. I think the ultimate moral to the story is this:

    Let guns in, throw liberals out. That would cure what ails Chicago.

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    • CW, you make some good points about the states that I hadn’t considered, and everyone isn’t going to immediately strap on a gun and wear around town, so much of the change could go unnoticed – except for the few paying attention to this issue.

      When it happens, it will make headlines for a few days, then like most other stories, the interest will die down and people will move on to the next headline.

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  4. At the risk of sounding hypocritical, I have mixed emotions about this issue. I do recognize that the 2nd doesn’t contain limitations on the right to bear arms, but as you point out, not everyone is prepared for the consequences associated with actually using the handgun – and that includes physical, emotional, and legal aspects. I’d prefer to think that those carrying a lethal weapon should have at least a rudimentary understanding of how the handgun works and how to use it safely.

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    • Perfectly understandable, Garnet, as I truly fretted over this one, feeling somewhat hypocritical too, because I’m not sure I really want everybody carrying a weapon. Several scenarios ran through my head, one being that the bad guys will no longer have to try and hide their weapon, but instead just strap on a holster of some kind and now he blends in with the good guys.

      Another is a woman carrying that gets it taken away from her and used on her because she wasn’t trained on how to react in that situation.

      Ultimately though, everyone has the same right, and much like free speech where we have to take the bad with the good, we’ll just have to take our chances. That old saying comes to mind – be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

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