Time for a New Freedom Party, Where Conservatives Can Begin the Process

I first read the following article, posted by friend Tim Apel, at Band of Bloggers. What we’re facing and what we need to do about it just can’t be said any better than this. Please give it a read! Click the link below:

General Rochambeau Statue

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/10/why-conservatives-will-need-a-new-party-if-when-hillary-wins?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=101616hillarynewparty&utm_campaign=crfb

 



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  1. Although it was more of a movement instead of a full fledged party, the Tea Party already tried that and look where it got us – a handful of real conservatives and that’s all. Then there’s the Libertarians who are ineffective and easy to forget.

    Forming a new party is one of those ideas that sounds great, but actually starting one is a boatload of work and mountains of red tape. Like CW said, it would likely fall into the same traps and end up just as watered down as the GOP.

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    • I agree it’s a lot of work, but having been a TEA party activist in Minnesota, I can tell you it lacked coordination and though most have always agreed we needed to vote conservative, who and what was a conservative wasn’t very focused. If I have any involvement in forming a new party I would be pushing to limit any nominating process to a handful, say a half dozen or fewer contestants for the nomination. Besides, it is my understanding that there are people who have the expertise and willingness to deal with the Red Tape already engaged in the process. Whether such a party falls into the same traps is really up to the people that participate in the party while it is still malleable enough to set some concrete safeguards/rules in place to prevent it.

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  2. Should conservatives start a new party or see if they can reform the GOP? To answer that question let’s first analyze what went wrong with the Republican Party. Was it the platform? Was it the leadership? Was it the candidates? Was it the members? Or was it all of the above?

    When Trump announced that he was running as a Republican, I wondered how that could be. Angered, I went to the GOP website and read through the platform (for the first time, shamefully). To my astonishment and disappointment, he wasn’t all that far off. From the time when the Party was formed, which I researched as well, to today, we’ve gone from one or two pages of a clear and concise mission to 66 pages of long-winded, nebulous goals that leave lots of wiggle room. So it’s no wonder that we ended up with 17 candidates (or whatever it was), all of whom could claim to be Republicans despite big differences in philosophies, backgrounds and agendas. So there’s the first lesson: Define the mission in the simplest terms. Narrowing the platform to a list of 10 or 15 non-negotiable objectives would shorten the eligible candidate list considerably and, ostensibly, weed out non-conservatives.
    But the next question is, how did we get so far off message to begin with? IMO the answer is that, just as happens in bloated organizations everywhere, the leadership slots are co-opted by people who sacrifice the broader, long-term objectives for short-term satisfaction. Instead of staying focused on the message of our mission, we focus on the candidates (“Anyone but Hillary!”) in order to get through that ONE election, and to hell with the future. That’s distractive, and it leads to the predictable consequence of members no longer knowing or caring what our mission actually is. Secondly, too many Republicans embraced a bastardized version of the “bigger tent” strategy, meaning that they sought to enlarge the tent by watering down the mission rather than attracting new members by selling them on our original mission. All of this has combined to give us mostly unacceptable candidates, and just as I am unhappy in my accident-by-birth partnership with my fellow Americans (as a result of the very same dynamic I just explained, not coincidentally), I am unhappy with the Republican Party.

    The reason I’ve gone through this exercise is to raise the following questions: How will those problems be corrected by forming a new Party? What is to keep a new Party from falling prey to the same types of people who want to take advantage of the Party’s vast resources without promoting the Party’s agenda? Those are questions that must be answered before we abandon what’s already been built and start all over.

    When Trump entered the race I saw it as a line-in-the-sand moment – a time for a referendum on the Party after so many years of being coerced into voting for RINOs, most of whom lost. I had an epiphany about what was happening to our party, and how we were abetting it by always conceding in advance to go along with the nominee no matter who it was. Believing it was time for a showdown over the direction of the party, I urged my fellow conservatives to refuse to commit to automatically voting for Trump if he won the nomination. IMO the prospect of losing would have forced the Trumpbots to reconsider their choice, and I hoped it would bring them around to our side so that we could re-take what’s already built rather than have to start from scratch with a new party. Nobody listened. I’m not saying that to chastise anyone as I too swore my allegiance to the nominee in prior elections myself. My only point is to help us learn from what’s happened. Given what’s occurred and the mindset that has hold of Republican voters it may be too late to salvage the GOP, but it will be no easy matter to build a new party, and someone needs to tell me how we plan to avoid the same traps we’ve fallen into before.

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    • The establishment is too deeply entrenched in the Republican party, they’ve created an extremely well-financed oligarchy, whose process to the nomination is so heavily rigged that there aren’t enough election cycles left in most our lives to ever vote for the change agents in numbers necessary to reform it. The reason Trump won is because of the rule changes the RNC established prior to the 2012 election to guarantee the Romney win. They thought that would work for Bush this time around but grossly underestimated the hate among the base for any Bush candidacy. So their rules worked for Trump instead. Believe me, they won’t ever let that happen again. And besides all that, the “Republican” name/brand is damaged beyond repair especially where it comes to attracting new voters and coalitions. It makes more logical sense to start over and pull together the immediately disaffected after this election to strive toward the future, IMAAHO.

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      • Those are all good points, AfterShock. I think there have been a lot of rumblings from various groups wanting to form new parties, so we should prepare ourselves for the mad scramble for power. Everyone’s going to want to be part of the decision-making.

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    • As to my position of refusing to vote Trump, it’s not based on the politics of the candidate, though that is a factor but not the deciding one, it really is about the depravity of the man himself. I just can’t go there. But with that said, the decisions made by a relative few like me who’s consciences are saying hell no, is the least of Trump’s worries. There are millions of independents, minority voters and rank ‘n file Republicans that just aren’t going to show up for him. Those several million crossovers from the Dem party — as a percentage of likely voters — are showing themselves in the weakness of Trump’s polling without them.

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      • Just to be clear, I have never said I was Never-Trump, and I never asked anyone else to be. I only encouraged conservatives not to agree in advance that they would vote for Trump if he won the nomination as that pledge removed all incentive for the Trumpbots to reconsider. Given the current situation I am sympathetic to either decision when it comes to voting for Trump.

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