Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry, Part 1

Note: there is a link to a separate post detailing the positive things that Rick Perry supporters are saying about him at the end of this piece.
 [Last updated: 10/7/2011]

This is part 1 of a 2-part collection of critical statements made against Governor Rick Perry of Texas. The rather long article was broken into two parts to improve download time, which has become excessive. 

Since he’s been Governor of Texas for over ten years, folks from the other “56 states” are asking Texans what kind of governor he’s been and what we think. I decided that what I “think” isn’t good enough – I could be wrong. So, I decided to do some research on Perry’s record and form a more accurate, fact-based opinion on his qualifications instead of relying on my general perceptions. 

In the spirit of full disclosure, I voted for Perry in each of the three gubernatorial elections since 2002 and I am a conservative and a registered Republican. It was easy for me to vote for Perry since the alternative(s) were either uber-RINOs in the primaries or liberal Democrats in the general elections. Under the circumstances, my choice was always easy. 

While researching Perry’s pros and cons, I’ve read every article and blog post that I could find – over several weeks. Many of those posts had 2-300 comments associated with them – I read them all. 

After reading literally thousands of comments, it’s become apparent that there are quite a lot of anti-Perry activists out there throwing all sorts of disparaging rhetorical crap against the wall in hopes that some will stick and they can influence someone, anyone, to become anti-Perry too. The unfortunate thing is that most of their negative statements are either completely false, at worst, or misleading, at best. They’re simply parroting something they saw on another hater’s blog. Yet they maintain that they are the knowledgeable ones and those supporting Perry are ignorant clods who can’t walk and chew gum at the same time – “ignorant” is an adjective that they like to use a lot. 

It’s ludicrous to think that some asinine statement like “Gardasil, Perry blew it – ‘nuff said,” deserves any consideration. No, it’s not “’nuff said,” there is usually more to know about an issue before a reasonable person can make an intelligent decision. For that reason, I have attempted to present some additional facts that have not been widely publicized just to educate those who have not been privy to Texas politics until now. 

In that spirit, I do realize that anyone who reads this summary has a right to be skeptical of my facts. I therefore invite those who might dispute my findings to challenge them by verifying what I’ve presented here. And cross-check via reliable sources rather than relying on a single posting by some anonymous blogger – some spout “facts” which have no basis in the truth. I will identify the source of my data and in many cases, I’ll provide a link to the source so you can see for yourself … the real facts. And one more thing, you’ll note that none of my information comes from any Perry-controlled site. I do have quotes from some of his sources, but only items that are specifically identified as a quote – no campaign rhetoric.

And finally, remember that any politician in office for ten years will have his/her critics and will have stepped on some toes during their term(s). 

Following are subjects that are claimed by detractors to be Rick Perry’s failings – they are in no particular order. 

1. Gardasil

Gardasil is a drug developed by Merck & Co.. It is supposed to prevent cervical cancer caused by the Human Papilloma Virus (HPV). The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved it in June of 2006 and subsequently recommended vaccination in females aged 11 and 12, before they become sexual active. Since it is not effective against an existing infection, it must be given before a sexually transmitted HPV infection occurs. 

In Gardasil, Merck believed that they had a credible, FDA-approved, CDC recommended, fact-backed case for vaccinating young women and lobbied state officials to do so. Were they trying to make money on the drug? Without a doubt, that’s what a business does.

Governor Perry issued an Executive Order (EO) (RP#65, February, 2007) which mandated that all Texas girls be vaccinated prior to their admission to the sixth grade. Parents were allowed to opt out of the mandate by filling out an affidavit. 

Perry was rebuked by both houses of the Texas legislature which overturned his EO by a veto-proof margin. Seeing the writing on the wall, Perry did not sign the law nor did he veto the overriding legislation. He subsequently rescinded RP#65 with another EO (RP#74) and the issue is now dead in Texas.  

As of July 2011, legislators in at least 41 states and D.C. have introduced legislation to require, fund or educate the public about the HPV Vaccine and at least 20 states have enacted this legislation, including Colorado, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,  Nevada, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Washington. Source: National Conference of State Legislatures.

Perry’s negatives related to the Gardasil issue were: 

  • issuing the EO requiring vaccinations for young girls. Even though a parent could opt-out (for religious or philosophical reasons), refusing the child’s shot, people were upset that the EO required inoculation. Had the vaccination been voluntary, there would have been no question. 
  • Perry’s former chief of staff (2002-2004) was a lobbyist for Merck at the time and is thought to have had undue influence on Perry on behalf of Merck’s drug. 
  • Merck contributed a grand total of $6,000 to Perry’s reelection campaign. While it is unseemly in its timing, $6,000 is barely enough money to get noticed, much less to buy the support of a governor, least of all a “high roller” like Perry’s critics claim he is. That Merck contribution amounted to .00025 of the $24 million dollar campaign funds that he received that year.

There are still some who are convinced that Merck contributed more than a paltry $6,000 to Perry. They are simply wrong. Merck gave two checks, one for $1,000 and another for $5,000 to Perry in the 2006 election timeframe (in 2008, they contributed a whopping $2,500). Here is a source to view all of Perry’s contributions: ProPublica. In fact, Merck has only contributed $23,500 to Perry over a 1998-2010 span, not exactly George Soros money. For comparison, from 2000-2006 Merck gave $2,460,000 to state politicians across 40 states.

The other side of the story: 

Gardasil was believed to be a way to stop certain types of cancer among young women. Studies appearing in The New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 found that Gardasil was nearly 100 percent effective in preventing precancerous cervical lesions caused by the the strains that Gardasil protects against. Gardasil’s effectiveness increased when given to girls and young women before they become sexually active. Gardasil was found to be extremely effective in preventing several (but not all) of the strains of HPV known to cause cervical cancer and genital warts.  

Cervical cancer is the second leading cancer killer of women worldwide.  In the United States, nearly 10,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer each year and 3,700 women die. 

In June 2006, The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) recommended administering the vaccine to girls between 11 and 12 years of age, before they become sexually active. 

Perry’s “justification”

Perry maintains that the justification for his executive order making the shot mandatory was twofold: 1) that the vaccine offered a chance to save lives that might have otherwise been taken away by cervical cancer and, 2) that insurance companies wouldn’t cover the $360 cost of the vaccine ($120 for each of a 3-shot regimen) when it was simply an optional “recommended” vaccine. That put it out of the reach for most low-income Texans. This from the Time Magazine article (linked above), “Some pediatricians and gynecologists are refusing to stock Gardasil because many insurance companies reimburse so little for the vaccine, which costs $360 for the three required doses.”

When Perry mandated Gardasil, it would have become part of a school-related vaccine package which was then covered by insurance for simply the cost of a co-pay.

Some additional insight can be gained by an analysis of 700 pages of e-mails regarding the HPV decision (Politico got from Perry’s office via a FOIA request). Ben Smith and Byron Tau concluded that there was not a record of Merck meddling and that Perry was “largely absent from the internal discussions.”

When Perry made the decision to issue the EO, it is likely that he was relying (at least partially) on his own in-house consultant more than being influenced by a $6,000 contribution by Merck. The e-mails show that his wife (Anita) WAS aware of the Gardasil issue and no doubt, Perry would have relied on her education (MS in Nursing from UT), and her experience, having worked in the nursing profession for more than 17 years. She worked in surgery, pediatrics, intensive care, administration, teaching and as a consultant.

That Anita was intimately involved in the issue is evidenced by the fact that she was the keynote speaker in 2005 at a Women in Government (WIG) conference on cervical cancer prevention and elimination.

Gardasil an unsafe vaccination?

Some critics have claimed that Gardasil has a record of “very serious safety issues.” That obvious attempt to further tarnish Perry’s image by intimating that not only did he do the bidding of Merck in ordering the vaccinations, he did so without considering the possible serious side effects. The CDC has been following Gardasil since its licensing and some current facts follow. Taken from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website:

Since licensure, CDC and FDA have been closely monitoring the safety of HPV vaccines. “As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil® have been distributed in the U.S. and the safety monitoring system (VAERS) received a total of 18,727 reports of adverse events following Gardasil® vaccination. As with all VAERS reports, serious events may or may not have been caused by the vaccine.”

“Of the total  number of VAERS reports following Gardasil®, 92%  were considered to be non-serious, and 8% were considered serious. Out of 35,000,000 doses distributed, there were 1,498 occasions of serious complications; that equates to a .0000428 chance that a dose will cause a serious adverse reaction.” Hardly enough to consider the vaccine “a very serious safety issue” as claimed by some critics. 

As of June, 2011, the CDC says: “Based on all of the information we have today, CDC recommends HPV vaccination for the prevention of most types of cervical cancer. As with all approved vaccines, CDC and FDA will continue to closely monitor the safety of HPV vaccines.” Check out the CDC’s statements about Gardasil  for yourself. And specifically check out the Summary at the end for the CDC’s conclusion about Gardasil’s effectiveness.

An update: from Perry’s Speech in New Hampshire at the Home of New Hampshire Deputy Speaker Pam Tucker (8/13/2011):

When a voter in New Hampshire confronted Perry on the Gardasil issue, here’s what he said, “I signed an executive order that allowed for an opt-out, but the fact of the matter is I didn’t do my research well enough to understand that we needed to have a substantial conversation with our citizenry,” he said. “I hate cancer. Let me tell you, as a son who has a mother and father who are both cancer survivors.”

Perry said he’d invested government resources in cancer cures, adding, “I hate cancer. And this HPV, we were seeing young ladies die at the early age. What we should have done was a program that frankly should have allowed them to opt in, or some type of program like that, but here’s what I learned — when you get too far out in front of the parade they will let you know. And that’s exactly what our legislature did.”

A cynic may not buy his explanation, but most politicians would never admit to a mistake at all.

Agree or disagree, at least he accepted his defeat and backed off. 

2. Trans-Texas Corridor 

The “Trans-Texas Corridor” (TTC) term identifies a plan, introduced by Governor Perry in 2001, that some saw as the beginning of a “North American Union” highway system. It was to extend from the Texas border with Mexico to the border with Oklahoma and would be a 4,000 mile system with routes crisscrossing Texas. The $175+ billion dollar project would have been the largest engineering project ever proposed for the state of Texas. 

When details of the plan became public, critics became concerned that it would lead to a “NAFTA Superhighway” that would facilitate the United States, Canada and Mexico merging into a North American Union (a fringe conspiracy theory).

As envisioned, the TTC consisted of multi-use right-of-ways that would be up to 1,200 feet wide to accommodate six 80 mph vehicle lanes, 4 truck lanes, two tracks each for high-speed rail, commuter rail, and freight rail, a 200 ft. wide utility zone to accommodate underground water, natural gas, and petroleum pipelines, telecommunications cables and high-voltage electric transmission lines. A full-sized right of way would have required 146 sq. acres per mile. 

While the concept of multi-use right-of-ways can be considered forward-thinking and progressive (in the proper use of the word), many were concerned that the proposed methods of land acquisition and financing could take advantage of landowners and the taxpaying public to the benefit of private entities. 

In March of 2005, a Comprehensive Development Agreement (CDA) was signed with Cintra/Zachry, a partnership between Cintra (Cintra Concesiones deInfraestructuras de Transporte,S.A.), an international developer of transport infrastructure, and Zachry Construction Corp., one of the country’s largest construction companies. There were several other participants in the CDA, but these are the two most prominent. 

Headquartered in Madrid, Spain, with subsidiaries on three continents, Cintra is one of the world’s largest private-sector developers of transport infrastructure. Zachry is a privately held company founded in 1924 and headquartered in San Antonio,Texas. The concerns that critics raised over the TTC were: 

  • Cintra, a Spanish firm, was the largest financer. They would build, design and operate the highway (that included collecting toll revenue). While the Spanish firm would not own the system, they would benefit financially off of Texas’ infrastructure. All roads in Texas are owned by Texas and managed under Texas’ Department of Transportation’s (TxDOT) authority.
  • Since most of the Trans-Texas Corridor roads would be toll roads, toll earnings would be used to pay investors (Cintra) and to maintain the roads. If any public money was used to pay for part of the TTC, it would constitute double taxation. Motorists would have contributed gasoline tax revenues towards building and maintaining Texas highways and still have to pay for tolls on the TTC. 
  • It was estimated that 580,000 acres (906 square miles) would have been taken from private owners (mostly ranch and farm land) and either purchased by, or seized (via eminent domain) by the state for the Trans-Texas Corridor. 
  • The possible misuse of eminent domain – confiscating private land for “public” use – was a major concern.

Perry’s dilemma

Here are the facts that were facing Governor Perry: Texas’ population is estimated to almost double by 2040 (growing by about 1,200 people a day right now). We’ll be approaching 44 to 45 million people by then. That’s not so far away. The TTC was an ambitious attempt to create a state-of-the-art, coordinated system of thousands of miles of roadways, rail lines, and gas transportation systems without raising taxes.

Fifty percent of the population in Texas is in the I-35 north/south corridor (roughly paralleling the route of the TTC). Infrastructure improvements (particularly roads) in that part of the state will be required to accommodate the growth.

What were his options?

The options were: 1) do nothing, and the state becomes so congested, the air quality gets impacted so negatively in those metropolitan areas along I-35 that you stifle economic growth. We know that doing nothing is not an acceptable alternative.

Or, 2) we could raise the gas tax by about $1/gal. That’s what the experts estimated that it would take, and it’s not sure that is even close to feasible. In recent years, it had been politically impossible to raise the gas tax by even a nickel or a dime/gal.

3) Wait for Washington to fund it? Well, good luck doing that. Our congressional delegation has not been very successful in getting Texas much more than nine cents back out of every dime that is sent to Washington in gas tax. Texas is a major donor state. Source: Environmental Working Group.

Finally, the last option was to use a Public/Private Partnership (P3) such that the private sector would build the infrastructure, and then recoup their investment via a user fee, i.e. tolls. It is important to note that P3s are a financing option, not a revenue source. Some current P3 examples in other states are: the Chicago Skyway, the South Bay Expressway in California, and the Capital Beltway high-occupancy toll lanes in DC. Here are more details on P3s from the Federal Highway Administration.

I-35 would have remained in place for those people who chose not to pay the toll. No “free” highways would have been converted to toll roads.

Some people are confused … they use the term “freeways.” There is no such thing as a freeway, no such thing as a free highway. There are only tax-funded roads and toll-funded roads.

Nevertheless, the TTC is now dead in Texas. It cannot be resurrected under any other name. In fact, the governor recently signed HB 1201, which removed all remaining references to the TTC from state statutes. Perry has not attempted to resurrect it or do an “end run” around the legislature and the people. Here is a local (Houston) story that sums up the public outcry over the TTC.

By law, toll roads in Texas can never be owned by anyone other than the state and are not being “leased away.” The public never relinquished ownership of any state roads.

The governor signed a law in 2005 that prevents a free road from being “converted” to a toll road. This is current law under the Transportation Code, Chapter 228.201 and he signed SB 18 on May 19, 2011, a bill which strengthened property owner’s rights when eminent domain is exercised by a government entity. Eminent domain “land grabs” were one of the big concerns that Texans had relating to the TTA. 

Unlike the current administration in Washington, Perry finally heard the people and backed off.

3. He used to be a Democrat and was Al Gore’s campaign manager in Texas 

It is true that Perry used to be a democrat, but he was never Gore’s campaign manager. He was active in Gore’s campaign but didn’t head it up, that was an accusation that was later proven false. Perry was raised in a Democrat family where his father was a long-serving Democrat county commissioner. It was natural for him to start his political career as a Democrat. He won his first election in 1984 when he was elected to the Texas house and soon became a rising star in Texas democrat politics. An opportunity to advance himself presented itself and he joined Gore’s Texas campaign in 1988. 

Those too young to remember wouldn’t recognize the Al Gore of 1988. He opposed the federal funding of abortion, supported a moment of silence in schools for prayer, approved funding of the Nicaraguan contras and was against the ban on interstate handgun sales. Gore’s platform was one that a conservative West Texas Democrat like state representative Perry could support when he signed up to chair the Senator’s Texas campaign.

This was Al Gore before he invented the Internet and got to be Mr. Global Warming,” Perry said. Growing up in rural Texas, he said, “I never met a Republican until I was 25. … In 1988 when you looked at the candidates, Al Gore was the most conservative candidate that was out there.” Gore’s opponents for the Democrat nomination included: Michael Dukaksis, Jesse Jackson, Dick Gephardt, Paul Simon, Joe Biden, and David Duke.

When Gore failed to win the nomination (Dukaksis won), Perry came to question his partisan identity. “Not only did I vote for George H.W. Bush for president, I switched parties the next year,” Perry said. “When I did that, I made both political parties happy.”

From the election on, the Gore/Perry partnership began to crumble and the way that their paths diverged in the past three decades speaks eloquently to the way American politics has been reshaped. Gore has sailed left, while Perry’s political odyssey has seen him tack in the other direction — and to the opposing party.

Perry says that the Gore experience helped him to “come to his senses,” and he switched to the Republican party in 1989,  fully 22 years ago. Perry switched parties over two decades ago and critics somehow think that  bringing it up now is newsworthy? Sorry guys, as we say in Texas, that dog won’t hunt. When this accusation is leveled at Governor Perry, it illustrates a lack of substantive issues that are available to the accuser (is that the best you got?).

If you’re interested in more details, here is a Texas Tribune article titled “Rick Perry: The Democrat Years.”

If critics insist that it’s fair to criticize Perry now for his actions of 22 years ago, it is also fair to apply that same scrutiny and criticism to cover positions espoused by every other politician covering the past 22 years – President Obama included. Is it time to revisit (in earnest this time) Obama’s anti-American associations, his time in Rev. Wright’s church, his “present” votes, where are his college transcripts, etc.? Let the scrutiny and criticism begin … 

4. He wants Texas to secede from the union 

Some say that Perry wants Texas to secede from the Union and he is a traitor for saying so. The governor never said that he wanted Texas to secede. Scholars know that Texas secession is an urban myth and certainly, the governor knows it as well. 

What actually happened was that after people shouted “Secede!” at an Austin rally, he said that he understood their frustration but added, “We’ve got a great union. There is absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, who knows what may come of that. Texas is a very unique place, and we’re a pretty independent lot to boot.” It was obvious that he was playing to the crowd by implying that it could happen.

Perry emphasized that he was not advocating secession, but understands why Americans may have those feelings because of frustration. He said it’s fine to express the thought. He offered no apology and did not back away from his earlier comments. Perry’s remarks were in response to a question from The Associated Press as he walked away from the rally. The governor said he didn’t think Texas should secede despite some chatter about it on the Internet and his name being associated with the idea. 

“Among scholars, the consensus is that the Civil War settled all these issues,” Harvey Tucker, professor in the political science department at Texas A&M, told Factcheck.org. “Texas does not have the right to secede.” Others agree, “There is no doubt whatsoever that Texas does not have a reserved right to secede,” said Sanford Levinson, professor of government at the School of Law at the University of Texas at Austin.  “One could argue that the state does have a reserved right to split into five separate states (and thus get a total of ten senators).”

While some Texans still harbor fantasies about secession, it is not a serious issue. It’s an urban myth that Texas still has that right – most scholars don’t believe that. When Texas entered the union in 1845, it was with the understanding that it could pull out. However, according to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission, in the end, Texas negotiated the power to divide into four or five (there’s some debate) additional states at some point if it wanted to, but did not retain the right to secede. here is a link to the 1866 ordinance declaring secession and here are the operative words: “and the right heretofore claimed by the State of Texas to secede from the Union, is hereby distinctly renounced.” Passed 15th March, 1866.

Additionally, the U.S. Supreme Court case Texas v White (1869) established the principle that there is an existing prohibition against any state seceding from the Union without the consent of the other States.  

5. The jobs created in Texas have all been low paying jobs. Texas’ average wage is much lower than the national average. 

That statement would imply that most Texans are working for minimum wage and endure a quality of life below that of other states.  

The statement is factually wrong.

The critics who make that statement haven’t done their homework, they don’t care, they want to believe the accusation since it fits their meme. As Ronald Reagan said, “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

Even if it were true, isn’t a low paying job in Texas better than being jobless in another state? 

Here are some facts: On August 17 2011, Richard Fisher, President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, gave a speech in which he separated “fact from fiction” about the record of job creation in Texas. Following are some excerpts from his speech:

Texas Job Growth is Indisputable: These are the facts. You may select whichever metric you wish. Regardless, it is reasonable to assume Texas has accounted for a significant amount of the nation’s employment growth both over the past 20 years and since the recession officially ended.

Most new jobs are unrelated to the oil and gas sector: “The most jobs have been created in the educational and health services sector, which accounts for 13.5 percent of Texas’ employment. The second-most jobs have been created in the professional and business services sector, which accounts for 12.5 percent of the Texas workforce. The mining sector, which includes support activities for both mining and oil and gas, employs 2.1 percent (yes, two-point-one percent) of Texas’ workers.”

Most New Jobs Pay Good Wages: “…these jobs are not low-paying jobs. The average weekly wage in the education and health services sector is $790; in the professional and business services sector it is $1,117; and in the mining sector, the average weekly wage is $2,271. Together these three sectors account for 68 percent of the jobs that have been created in Texas in the past two years.” Here is a link to Mr. Fisher’s full speech.

Mr. Fisher quotes weekly wages for the 68% of jobs created. Annualizing $790/week is $41,080, $1,117/wk is $58,084, and $2,271/wk is $118,092 when annualized. Hardly “low wages.”

You can check out the actual data for yourself at Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), (the source of the statistics quoted by Mr. Fisher). Be aware that dataset is massive, but it downloads your selected groups into Excel files that can be “sliced and diced” in many different ways.

If Texas has only been creating only low wage jobs, please explain how the statewide median income is still $48,259? A “building & grounds maintenance” person in the Dallas area earns a median annual income of $20,530 and a “food prep and serving” employee earns a median income of only $17,900, not counting tips (both figures from BLS). The massive number of low paying jobs must really be pulling down the Texas median income. Imagine what the $48,259 would be if not for the thousands of “poorly paid individuals.”

Having a job is only one part of the Texas quality-of-life equation – the other significant part is Texas’ low cost of living. The Cost of Living (COL) index takes into account prices on a variety of basic goods and services, including housing, groceries, utilities, healthcare, and transportation, as well as nonessential expenses like movie tickets and newspapers. These disparate costs of living can mean that a salary in one city has a far different value than the same amount of money in another city. 

While it is true that Texas median household income ($48,259) is less than some states like California, New York, and Connecticut, the state does fare well when the income is adjusted by the Cost of Living (COL). When the COL is factored in, Texas’ median household income ($53,009) exceeds California by $8,550, exceeds New York’s by $10,403, and Connecticut’s by $1,532. These are 2009 figures from the U.S. Census Bureau reported in a U.S. News article. Note that those figures are based on median income (a midpoint, with as many above as below).

Here is a direct comparison illustrating how much the cost of living affects one’s standard of living. Let’s look at two cities, Los Angeles and Dallas. When Dallas is compared to L.A., here is the result: “The cost of living in Dallas is lower than the cost of living in Los Angeles. If you make $100,000.00 in Los Angeles and move to Dallas, you will only need to make $62,862.55 ($37,137.45 less) to maintain the same buying power.” The comparison is from Inflation Data.com  where you can compare two selected cities against one another.

And here’s another objective, authoritative comparison:  

Texas is ranked third among “Best States to make a living.” The ranking is based on an Adjusted Average Income value which considers taxes, housing, and cost of living. Texas’ average is $41,427. Compared to Massachusetts: $38,665, Minnesota: $37,721, and California: $29,772 just to compare a few. This from CBS MoneyWatch, April, 2011.  

And here is another interesting tidbit, Texas places two metro areas, Houston ($60,634) and Dallas ($59,217) among the top ten metro areas in the nation with the highest real income. Real income is the median household income adjusted by the COL. Compare those figures with a couple of other large metro areas from the bottom ten: New York ($35,370) and Los Angeles ($41,331). The figures are from a June, 2011 analysis by the U.S. News  using latest available (2009) data. 

And what about wages? Texas has seen wages climb faster than the country overall. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average wage for employees in Texas rose 7.4% between May 2008 and May 2010 (the latest data available). For the nation as a whole, average wages climbed only 5%. This from Investors.com.

Finally, here is a new link, just added due to its excellent analysis of Texas jobs and unemployment. It is an excellent read that digs into the correlation between unemployment, job growth, and people moving to Texas. It’s called “Political Math.”

So, contrary to the poverty implied by the original criticism, the standard of living in Texas isn’t as bad as the “low paying” statement (if true) would indicate – the accusation is just an another attempt to diminish the job creation achievement, Texas’ standard of living, and by association, Governor Perry. And don’t worry, all of us “po’ folks” in Texas will manage.

6. Texas ranks poorly in educational spending and high school graduations 

That statement is partially true. Texas does rank near the bottom of some generalized rankings in spending per student and high school graduations, but as usual, those rankings alone are misleading. The statement is intended to imply that the state does a poor job of educating its students and therefore its Governor, Rick Perry is to blame. It’s just another two-for-one Texas/Perry smear.

With Perry as governor, how does education in Texas really compare with other states?

Well, here’s one example: On August 18, 2011, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan  attacked the performance of Texas schools, and therefore indirectly, Governor Perry. The only problem is … Texas schools do markedly better than the Chicago school district that Duncan actually ran as CEO of Chicago Public Schools. Here’s a link to Duncan’s tirade.

Duncan actually referenced a “massive increases in class size in Texas” during Rick Perry’s time in the governor’s office. But, class sizes actually went down. Duncan didn’t even bother to check his “facts” before blasting Texas (and Perry). Everything you ever wanted to know about Texas schools is available here on  Texas Education Association’s website. Duncan could have saved himself some embarrassment if he had checked his “facts” first.

The obvious political purpose was to attack a Republican challenger to his boss, which, if he is defeated, would put Duncan out of work.  Dallas Morning News’ editorial writer Rodger Jones offers another motive: Perry’s refusal to join Duncan’s Race to the Top.  Perry balked at the program as part of his general opposition to federal interference in state jurisdiction, which Jones calls “political,” but offers it as a reason that Duncan would want to make Texas’ education efforts look deficient. But included in Jones’ expose of Duncan’s charges, there is more – for instance:

Texas is ranked 13th in Education Week’s Quality Counts report. Quality Counts gave Texas an “A” in “Standards, Assessment and Accountability,” and an “A” in “Transitions and Alignment” of the Texas system with college and career readiness.

In 2009, Texas ranked 7th in a 26 state comparison of the only states reporting four-year on-time graduation rates. That year Texas’ on-time graduation rate was 80.6%. The Texas on-time graduation rate for 2010 is now 84.3%, an amazing 3.7 percentage point increase in a single year on the dropout indicator.

The Texas class of 2011 posted a record-high math score on the ACT college entrance exam. The Texas average math score was 21.5 and was higher than the national average of 21.1. See the full text for yourself at a Hot Air posting of the Dallas Morning News article.

Now to get more specific – namely, a direct comparison between Texas and Wisconsin schools.

We chose a comparison to Wisconsin because earlier this year, during their sit-ins and demonstrations, Wisconsin teachers compared their state’s (supposed) #2 ranking in ACT/SAT test scores directly to Texas (which they pegged at #47). Their reason for comparing to Texas was that Wisconsin teachers are unionized while collective bargaining by teachers is illegal in Texas. This direct comparison was intended to show the benefit of unionized teachers in educating our children.

However, those rankings were found to be: 1) obsolete, using 12-year-old data, and 2) used questionable methodology. The ranking was debunked by PolitiFact and the claim has since been removed from the union’s website, in other words, they stretched the facts to fit their agenda.

One point that must be considered when comparing Texas to other states is the racial makeup of the student population. Minority students – regardless of state – tend to score lower than white students on standardized tests, and the higher the proportion of minority students in a state the lower its overall test scores tend to be. Regardless of the reasons, the gap does exist, and it’s mathematical sophistry to compare the combined average test scores in a state like Wisconsin (4% black, 4% Hispanic) to a state like Texas (12% black, 30% Hispanic).

But let’s even ignore that mismatch and compare them anyway – broken down by racial groups. We’ll compare some 2009 standardized test scores (the latest available) for 4th and 8th grade students in the areas of math, reading, and science. A pilot program for 12thgraders is being tested, but national comparisons are not yet possible for that grade. The data supporting the following rankings are found at the Nation’s Report Card website (link below the rankings). 

2009 4th Grade Math

White students: Texas 254, Wisconsin 250 (national average 248)
Black students:
Texas 231, Wisconsin 217 (national 222)
Hispanic students:
Texas 233, Wisconsin 228 (national 227)

2009 8th Grade Math

White students: Texas 301, Wisconsin 294 (national 294)
Black students:
Texas 272, Wisconsin 254 (national 260)
Hispanic students:
Texas 277, Wisconsin 268 (national 260)

2009 4th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 232, Wisconsin 227 (national 229)
Black students:
Texas 213, Wisconsin 192 (national 204)
Hispanic students:
Texas 210, Wisconsin 202 (national 204)

2009 8th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 273, Wisconsin 271 (national 271)
Black students:
Texas 249, Wisconsin 238 (national 245)
Hispanic students:
Texas 251, Wisconsin 250 (national 248)

2009 4th Grade Science

White students: Texas 168, Wisconsin 164 (national 162)
Black students:
Texas 139, Wisconsin 121 (national 127)
Hispanic students:
Wisconsin 138, Texas 136 (national 130)

2009 8th Grade Science

White students: Texas 167, Wisconsin 165 (national 161)
Black students:
Texas 133, Wisconsin 120 (national 125)
Hispanic students:
Texas 141, Wisconsin 134 (national 131)

To recap: white students in Texas perform better than white students in Wisconsin, black students in Texas perform better than black students in Wisconsin, and Hispanic students in Texas perform better than Hispanic students in Wisconsin. In 18 separate ethnicity-controlled comparisons, the only one where Wisconsin students performed better than their peers in Texas was 4th grade science for Hispanic students (statistically insignificant), and this was reversed by 8th grade.

Further, Texas students exceeded the national average for their ethnic cohorts in all 18 comparisons; Wisconsinites were below the national average in 8, above average in 8. That bears repeating: Texas fourth and eighth graders outperformed the national average scores in all categories.

Perhaps the most striking thing in these numbers is the within-state gap between white and minority students. Not only did white Texas students outperform white Wisconsin students, the gap between white students and minority students in Texas was much less than the gap between white and minority students in Wisconsin.

In other words, students perform better in Texas schools than in Wisconsin schools – especially minority students.

The above statistics and narrative was taken from Iowahawk’s great blog site (but they have been verified against the Nation’s Report Card site which was their original source). Read Iowahawk’s complete analysis HERE.

And here is a link to the Nation’s Report Card site – the original source of the data so you can compare and contrast any other state(s) you’d like to see.  

About the website:” The Nation’s Report CardTM informs the public about the academic achievement of elementary and secondary students in the United States. It communicates the findings of the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), a continuing and representative measure of achievement in various subjects over time.

NAEP is a congressionally authorized project of the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) within the Institute of Education Sciences of the U.S. Department of Education.

And lastly, this little publicized fact, Texas owns the top two spots (#’s 1 and 2) in the America’s Best High Schools list (Newsweek, June 2011), 5 in the top 25, and has 19 of the top 100 best high schools in the country. How can it be that Texas, with about 8 percent of the country’s population, places 19 schools in the top 100 high schools in the country (that’s 19 %)? Here’s a link to the Newsweek article  [be aware that the site has some display formatting problems, you'll have to scroll down to see the schools, but the data is all there, it's just in need of some TLC].

Is Texas leading the nation is education spending or achievements? No, the state must do better. No one in Texas is satisfied with our current level of achievement. Like any parent, in any state, we want the best for our children.

But Texas isn’t really the educational cesspool that the original accusation would imply – in fact, Texas is doing fairly well when actual achievements are compared to national averages. Is Rick Perry responsible? In some small measure, he is. Just as it would be wrong to credit Perry with all of Texas’s achievements, it would be just as wrong to assume that all of Texas’ problems are his fault. As governor, he certainly did contribute to both good and bad aspects of Texas life.

7. He is squishy on immigration  

There is some truth in that. His stance against Texas adopting an Arizona-style immigration law was initially troubling to many conservatives even though his point was that it would be better to force the federal government to enforce the border since that is one of their primary responsibilities. A true statement, but one easier said than done. 

He did add a bill prohibiting Sanctuary Cities as an emergency item in the regular session and added it to the call during the special session, but there wasn’t enough resolve in either the legislature or the Governor to overcome the business lobby that was adamantly against the bill. It died in the last special session. It was disappointing to conservatives that the Governor didn’t call another special session to continue the fight, but he maintains that It would have been a waste of taxpayer money to call another special session on an issue that lawmakers would not take action to pass – twice. The governor says that he will continue to support the prohibition of  sanctuary cities in the future.

Some have said that when Perry said that the Arizona law “wasn’t the right direction for Texas,” he was taking a position against strict enforcement of immigration laws. Not so – what he actually said was, “I fully recognize and support a state’s right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas.” His concern was related to the portion of the Arizona law that required peace officers to inquire about citizenship status. Perry believes that the best solution is to allow officers the discretion to ask if they deem it necessary to carry out their duty. 

“Texas has a rich history with Mexico, our largest trading partner, and we share more than 1,200 miles of border, more than any other state,” Perry said. “As the debate on immigration reform intensifies, the focus must remain on border security and the federal government’s failure to adequately protect our borders. Securing our border is a federal responsibility, but it is a Texas problem, and it must be addressed before comprehensive immigration reform is discussed.” Texas has allocated more than $400 million in state funding to secure the border since 2005. In the last legislative session alone, $152 million was earmarked for border security.

Perry has also adopted the National Governor’s Policy, part of which states: 

  • Federal immigration policies should ensure that new immigrants do not become a public charge to federal, state, or local governments.
  • The federal government must provide adequate information to and consult with states on issues concerning immigration decisions that affect the states.
  • States should not have to incur significant costs in implementing federal laws regarding immigration status as a condition of benefits.

See the full National Governor’s Association policy on immigration here.

In the final analysis, Governor Perry says that the nation cannot have effective immigration policy until the border is secure. Today, the border is not secure and this is where we need to focus our resources.

Here’s a link to On The Issues which has more references to Perry’s statements on immigration-related subjects (too many to include here):

Perry gets a “D-” from NumbersUSA

Many engaged conservatives are considering the pros and cons of the current group of GOP candidates and they’re check-marking mental boxes for each of the issues that they deem important. When immigration comes up, and it often does, a grade from a specialized and credible source like NumbersUSA can help or hurt a candidate. A number of readers have brought up Perry’s grade and are concerned about his “D-“ issued by that group. It is what it is … but wait … it could change. NumbersUSA updates the grades weekly, adjusting grades by the candidates most recent statements and actions so the grades are subject to change.

UPDATE: As of 9/5/2011, none of the grades have changed. Does that mean that none of the candidates have made any statements regarding immigration that NumbersUSA deems “material” and should affect their grades since this was originally written and linked on 8/17/2011? Either that or they don’t actually update weekly.

As of 9/5/2011, NumbersUSA has issued Rick Perry a grade of “D-“. Mitt Romney also gets a “D-“, and for what it’s worth, Ron Paul gets an “F.” President Obama gets an “F-“ – an F-minus? I certainly would agree with the grade given Obama – or maybe it should be a “P-,” for “present”?

Though not (yet) running, Sarah Palin gets a “D” and Herman Cain gets a passing “C-“. The only leading candidate for the GOP nomination to get a good grade was Michelle Bachmann with a “B-“. Those are the headlines.

Time to look a little deeper. How did they arrive at a grade and what are the components?

For one thing, NumbersUSA grades the candidates on what they say, and to a lesser degree for what they’ve done. The following is from their website:

These are not Report Cards on past actions, which matter but not as much as what these politicians now say in the news media or on official websites. These grades and ratings are about what a Hopeful says a President should do about immigration. We look at contradictions and changes in stances. We generally give the most weight to the most recent statements and actions.

So NumbersUSA is grading the candidates on their latest rhetoric? Words speak louder than actions? Their grades are based on what the candidate says they would do (or wouldn’t do) as President? That doesn’t seem to set a very high bar. I’m not saying that any grades would be any different – I don’t know, but it seems like a record of votes or bill signings (or vetoes) represents something solid as opposed to a statement made up of a carefully selected, politically beneficial series of words.

If the candidates know that they only have to talk a good game why wouldn’t they just voice some promising rhetoric - calculated to achieve a good grade and leave it at that? Barack Obama has never been held accountable for his campaign promises, has he? I recognize that is a cynical position, but they are all politicians aren’t they?

For his part, Rick Perry is graded poorly on two items: “mandating e-verify,” which is defined as:

Jobs held by illegal aliens SHOULD be opened up for unemployed Americans and legal immigrants already here by REQUIRING all businesses to use the Federal automated, rapid-response internet E-Verify system to screen out illegal foreign workers.”

And “Limit Unfair Worker Competition,” which means:

The government should institute SAFEGUARDS that will prevent importation of foreign workers any time they would threaten the jobs or depress the wages of American workers.”

Perry comes across as “middle of the pack” when compared to the others who are also seeking the Presidency. Only Bachmann stands out. While Perry does grade fairly well on four (of the 12 components), he is given an “unhelpful” (“null”) on the remaining six.

I know that readers will want to see for themselves all of the other details of the NumbersUSA ratings, so here is a link to the NumbersUSA website and to the specific page for Presidential ratings. While on the Presidential page, you can click the candidate’s image at the top of the column to get more detail on which the grade is based.

8. Perry is a member of the Bilderberg cabal and therefore believes in a New World Order (NWO). That is reason alone to eliminate him from voting consideration.

Governor Perry did attend a Bilderberg meeting in June, 2007, and now some say (mostly Ron Paul supporters) that he is their hand-picked candidate for the job of POTUS in 2012. Since attending four years ago, his detractors would have us believe that he’s been studying his Bilderberg bible, taking classes in New World Governing, and polishing his Illuminati lapel pin. Does this mean that the Bilderbergers are ready to dump President Obama (who they also supposedly put in office) in favor of Rick Perry?

This is a Texas-sized Conspiracy theory – appropriate for the Governor of Texas. 

Here are some hard facts about the Bilderberg Group. The group (named after the Dutch hotel where they first met) was founded in 1954. Started by Denis Healey, Joseph Retinger, David Rockefeller and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, they aim to bring together financiers, industrialists, politicians and opinion formers to discuss problems facing the western world. There are no “members” of the Bilderberg Group, only attendees.

Every year they meet, away from the intrusive eyes of the press. The confidentiality enables people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions. Attendance is only by invitation of the steering committee. They network, eat, drink, play golf and return home. At each meeting, a broad cross-section of leading citizens are assembled for nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern especially in the fields of foreign affairs and the international economy.

It is a small, flexible international forum in which different viewpoints can be expressed and mutual understanding enhanced. Bilderberg’s only activity is its annual Conference. At the meetings, no resolutions are proposed, no votes taken, and no policy statements issued. Since 1954, fifty-nine conferences have been held. After each meeting, the names of the participants as well as the agenda are made public and available to the press.

Invitations to Bilderberg conferences are extended by the Chairman following consultation with the Steering Committee members. Participants are chosen for their experience, their knowledge, their standing and their contribution to the selected agenda. There usually are about 120 participants of whom about two-thirds come from Europe and the balance from North America. About one-third is from government and politics, and two-thirds from finance, industry, labor, education and communications. Participants attend Bilderberg in a private and not an official capacity.

Following are a few of the prominent persons attending one or more Bilderberg meetings over the years; the list is intended to illustrate the varied positions, background, and political views of those who have participated (only USA participants are listed):

Presidents Bill Clinton and Gerald Ford, John Bolton, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Timothy Geithner, Paul Volcker, Terry McAuliffe, Ben Bernanke, David Rockefeller, Rupert Murdoch, Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfield, ABC anchor Peter Jennings, William F. Buckley, George Stephanopoulos, Mort Zuckerman, Thomas Friedman, George Soros, Senators Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Diane Feinstein, Tom Daschle, Chuck Hagel, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, John Corzine, and Governors Mark Sanford (SC), Mark Warner (VA), George Pataki (NY), Christine Todd Whitman (NJ) and Kathleen Sebelius (KS).

It’s common for many CEO’s of large corporations to be present at the meetings. For example, the CEO’s of Amazon, Alcoa, Coca Cola, Fannie Mae, Facebook, Ford, Goldman Sachs, Microsoft, Pepsico, Time Inc. and the Washington Post have all attended Bildergerg meetings. Even Prime Ministers Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher (G.B.) attended a Bilderberg conference.

Here is a LINK to conference meeting dates, locations, and agendas, and this LINK will take you to the “Latest Meetings” tab. Simply select the year and click on “Participants” to see who attended.

Some say that they secretly control the world’s governments; they seek the world’s destruction so it can be rebuilt more perfectly. They have long infiltrated nearly all aspects of American society, business and government and they are bent on establishing a New World Order. The appeal of this theory is its utter vagueness and total flexibility based on location and government. Basically, the conspiritists believe that anyone in power is probably doing something super secretive and deadly right now that’s designed to increase the suffering of the masses and bring more wealth and power to the elite. It goes without saying that there’s no proof of any of this, but then, that’s the appeal of conspiracy theories.

And what about Perry’s attendance violating the Logan Act? For those not versed on such matters: “The Logan Act  (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) is a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from “negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization.” Because the language is so broad in scope, legal scholars and judges have suggested that the Logan Act is unconstitutional. Historically, the act has been used more as a threat to those engaged in various political activities than as a weapon for prosecution. In fact, Logan Act violations have been discussed in almost every administration without any serious attempt at enforcement, and to date there have been no convictions and only one recorded indictment.

It is ludicrous to accuse Perry of “negotiating” with “other nations” just as it would be to accuse the other participants, like ABC anchor Peter Jennings, William F. Buckley, or George Stephanopoulos of “negotiating with foreign governments.” They attended a conference with other influential people, that’s the extent of it. Find something else to worry about.

No one is saying that the movers and shakers who have attended the conferences don’t have an impact on our world, just look at the people who attend – they are among the most influential and powerful individuals in every category – of course they have an impact. But these people will have influence on our lives because of who they are and the power they hold, not because of any blood oath to the Bilderbergers. Frankly, the United Nations (UN) is probably a bigger threat to our republic than the Bilderberg group.

Only in science fiction (and conspiracy theories) can someone like Rick Perry be turned into a mind-numbed robot following the Bilderberg’s nefarious instructions to take over the world … instructions that they somehow implanted in less than three days … four years ago … right.

And recently, during an interview by Maggie Haberman on 8/15/2011, Perry said that he was invited to the Bilderberg meeting and attended out of curiosity. “I found it to be an interesting group of people. I have yet to find out why they want to keep it a secret,” he said. “I haven’t been invited back and that was 5 years ago, so I guess I didn’t impress them.”

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That is where one can learn of the POSITIVES that are attributed to Governor Perry. 

 

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218 Responses to Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry, Part 1

  1. Hey :) I am going to repost your article well at least part 1 and then link to yours for the rest :) good work!

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  4. Roger Leahey says:

    Can anyone address recent charges that Perry is linked to the KKK and that he “EMBRACES DEMON-SEEING, GAY BASHING RELIGIOUS LEADER” (see National Enquirer article, Sep. 28)?

    • Ray Hause says:

      Roger,
      Can’t address your question directly about ur request but can, in general, say that the majority of the negatives being posted are coming from the same groups. The major political group is the Libertarians, supporters of the Pauls, ALIPAC, past loosers in races(such as the Medina and Strayhorn groups, News With Views(I’ve not investigated them indept but suggest one check out their asociation with a church in Florida), activists such as Terri Hall in San Antonio. These are just some of the groups and more that are camouflaged as TPers.

      • Roger Leahey says:

        Hi Ray, I really appreciate your reply. However, you are giving me a non-answer that is of little value. Subsequently, I answered my own question by actually reading the National Enquirer article. As unbelievable as it may be, below is the reason The National Enquirer, et al, has emblazoned the following headline on their front page:
        “PERRY LINKED TO KKK – SECRETS REVELED!”

        Alice Patterson helped organize a religious rally – dubbed “The Response”. She was embraced by Gov Perry on stage. One of Alice Patterson’s grandfathers used to be associated with the KKK; therefore, Rick Perry is “linked” to the KKK.

        By rights, the management of the National Enquirer should be put in jail.

        Although unjustly slandered, Perry has shown little sense as a presidential candidate by engaging in a religious rally in the first place, doubly so one organized by a religious crack-pot (Patterson) who purports to “see demons”.

        Perry is toast.

  5. Oldshooter says:

    I agree that an EO may not have been the best way to implement a vaccination program in the schools, but primarily because parents tend to see it as a “sneaky” way to impose potentially unwanted regulations. However, that being said, please consider that we eradicated Smallpox internationally (It no longer exists at all except perhaps in secret Bio-war labs), and largely got rid of Polio (especially in the USA), along with a number of other diseases, in my lifetime, by imposing similar regulations on school children. Opposing the Gardasil vaccine today, is little different than opposing the Smallpox or Polio vaccines in the 1950s. There are NO vaccinations that do not carry SOME risk of potential negative side-effects, and the data available to Perry at the time did not suggest any unusually high risk of such with Gardasil. Perry wanted to do what he could to get female school children vaccinated to prevent their potential development of cervical cancer as adults. His program would probably have eventually eradicated that cancer within TX, within 20-30 years, at least for women who had been to school in TX. Legally requiring the vaccination would force health insurance companies to fund it, and this would have greatly reduced the number of people who “opted out,” which, as Garnett pointed out, is always an option for legislation like this in TX.

    Anyone who is under the impression that teenaged school girls are not engaging in activities that could result in their being exposed to STDs is simply not paying attention. I live in San Antonio TX, and I understand that our county (Bexar) has the highest rate of teen pregnancies in the USA. I work in the mental health field and I deal on a daily basis with adult women who were sexually active in their early teens, often while in middle school. Incidentally, these were mostly black and Hispanic women, who came from poor or dysfunctional families that would probably not have provided such vaccinations unless they were required to. If my daughter were still a child, I’d have her vaccinated with Gardasil. But then, we were a military family and she (in fact, my whole family) was vaccinated regularly, and for everything under the sun (how many of you are vaccinated against bubonic plague or yellow fever?) without any ill effects (OK, we sometimes had sore arms for a day or two). The same was true for thousands of other military adults and children.

    So, while we may take Gov. Perry to task for being “authoritarian” or wanting to “force his ideas on the people,” we should at least admit that the idea in question in this case is not an unreasonable one. It would probably have been beneficial for the vast majority of the females in the state, and would likely have been good for the society as a whole. Would it have been better to propose it by engaging in a major publicity campaign to educate parents to the probable long-term health benefits of having their daughters vaccinated on their own? Yes, from a philosophical and even political POV; however, it probably would not have worked very well, simply because the more health aware parents probably already knew about this, and the poor and dysfunctional families most likely to have daughters at risk, would also be most likely not to vaccinate their children either for financial reasons, or simply because they exercised relatively little control over their children in general. In the more conservative families, especially the more traditional Hispanic families, a great many of whom live in south TX, there is an added cultural/social factor involved. There is a great reluctance to admit the possibility of, or even to discuss, sexual behavior with our children, especially daughters. Daughters are expected to remain chaste and sexually inactive until marriage, or at least adulthood. That this is unlikely, is generally not known, and certainly not accepted. Families tend to see such behavior as something that happens to others (those bad girls down the street), but not their own children. Requiring the vaccination to enroll in school circumvents this issue nicely.

    • garnet92 says:

      Thanks for your thoughtful comment, Oldshooter. Incidentally, I am also an “old” “shooter” myself, in that I am a CHL-carrying gun nut and retired geezer. We are in agreement on Perry’s actions. I believe that he thought that he was doing the right thing for Texas, he did exercise poor judgement in using the EO vehicle to implement it though. That’s the only thing that I find fault with. I am currently expanding the writeup on Gardasil/HPV since that is the issue receiving the most activity at present. Thanks for commenting. G92

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  8. CHHR01 says:

    You are correct, this post is getting very long indeed! I’m beginning to have difficulty keeping up with the updates :)

    All good though, I’d rather have the info – I’ll just be making very good use of MS Word and the compare documents feature when it comes to your posts. I just don’t want to miss a thing!

  9. Sarah Roman says:

    Wow! Fantastic post. Thank you for all of the time and effort that you put into researching this. It is greatly appreciated.

    • garnet92 says:

      Yes I did, CHH – I visit Michelle’s blog daily and read her post on the issue. If you read her regularily, you know that Gardasil is a real hot button issue for her and she has crucified Rick Perry on that score. It’s not surprising that California would do something like that, there are another 23 or so states that either provide it, cover payments, or are legislating laws to administer it. At least, Perry isn’t alone in pushing for it – he just shouldn’t have mandated it via E.O. G92

      • CHHR01 says:

        While I do not disagree, it does highlight some key issues regarding insurance industry control over health care – as an HR type, I can tell you that they rule the outcome and unless mandated, they do not provide for coverage. “They are in the business of making money” and anything that interrupts their rather hefty ROI is not an option. Unfortunately, insurance companies have long since ended the practice of betting on “risk” as they are actually designed to do. Instead, since most do not understand the relationship, insurance and health care have become synonymous. Unfortunately, they are not one in the same. How unfortunate that folks are debating the mandate issue under ObamaCare and do not understand this key principal. You don’t have to agree with Perry’s decision to use the EO to force insurance companies to cover the cost of the very expensive immunization, but to debate against him on this issue means that the real issue and the lack of actual insurance reform under ObamaCare should be equally debated. I find that really frustrating especially since his tort reform success fits so nicely with this one.

  10. Ray Hause says:

    Should one read the numerous statements that have primarily inferences and implacations, I feel this article simply balances. Should one consider that many of us have been reading a vast amount of this same propaganda against Perry, finally some has taken the time to see the other side, a great article.

  11. Laurie Harrison says:

    As for #6, you might want to do some more research–specifically TSTA or Texas AFT—both are unions for Texas teachers.
    Your writing is excellent; however, it really does tilt “Rick Perry”.

    • garnet92 says:

      Laurie, thanks for the head-up. It is true that teacher’s unions are not illegal in Texas, but collective bargaining by teachers is. That is the way that I should have stated it. I’ll change it. Of course, it does tilt towards Perry, I confess that right up front. I researched the critical statements to see what was true and what wasn’t and the results are what I posted. So, I don’t apologize for being pro-Perry, as I said, I don’t agree with everything he’s done, but I’ve also done some research on Romney and, as a result, Perry is my choice. I will be posting something similar on Romney in the next couple of weeks.

      Thanks. G92

  12. krew09 says:

    “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”DAVID ROCKEFELLER

    July 18, 1993 — CFR member and Trilateralist Henry Kissinger writes in the Los Angeles Times concerning NAFTA:

    “What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system…a first step toward a new world order.”

    “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order . Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”

    Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

  13. krew09 says:

    you say there is no proof of the of the NWO conspiracy. There is mountains of proof. They are literally obsessed with a one world government……..David Rockefeller openly admits,as does his frontman Henry Kissinger their goals. Who has the power to get George W. Bush to commit high treason by signing the North American Union or “SECURITY for PROSPERITY PARTNERSHIP”…in secret in Canada,signing away our borders,merging military,health,education,and this SPP includes government reps at every department on the highest levels,the secret meeting also include powerful international corporation…Documents were won in law suits and the FOIA………………….All this orchestrated under the Council of Americas……Founder …David Rockefeller….who is a regular attendee at Bildeberg meetings,as is Kissinger…………..that is just a small sample of PROOF.

    • garnet92 says:

      krew09, what you’ve presented are statements made by a few of the Bilderberg big wigs, not any evidence of any wrongdoing by those who have attended. Did George W, Bush attend? If he did, he wasn’t on any of the participant lists I saw and I read them all looking for notable Americans. No one would argue that some believe that a “one world” government would be better – anyone who believes the United Nations is good believes that (I don’t), but you’ve not shown any sort of “smoking gun” that links the Bilderberg attendees guilty of doing anything more than talking. Bush’s dad wasn’t on any participant list nor was Barack Obama and, as I racall, George Soros only attended one meeting. Anyway, Perry has made a statement regarding his Bilderberg attendance, ““I found it to be an interesting group of people. I have yet to find out why they want to keep it a secret,” he said. “I haven’t been invited back and that was 5 years ago, so I guess I didn’t impress them.”
      G92

      • CHHR01 says:

        In my research on Perry, I found evidence that he attended exactly two meetings – I’m sorry, to be nefarious, wouldn’t one have to attend more than two over an 11 yr period? I mean, how does one support the “illumaniti” or Bilderberg when you aren’t even an active registered member?

        Too much Alex Jones thought interrupting the reasoning process to my mind.

  14. Ray Hause says:

    Alicia, sounds like U were one of the mothers who just wont beleive that ur 12 year old could be playing a little more than just ;’Nurse”. Should U would have read para #2 of that immigration grade u would have saw that it stated to being a snapshot of the candidates views for one week. Also, the grade is subject to change based on their comments during the next week. I love that grading system, look at ur grade this week, change what U said and obtain an “A+” next week. What that would have done for my Algebra grades. As far as there being only 8 answers, ur brilliance flew right over part “2″.
    For eighteen years we’ve endured some of this bunk and we just keep on winning, it’s time to join the winning team.

  15. Alicia Papin says:

    That article has a few problems. The forced vaccinations would not have had an opt-out if not for public outcry. Comparing Texas schools to Chicago’s to “prove” Perry is doing a good job is just pathetic. All the article even said was Perry in D- in immigration. For a grand finale, the article claims to address 17 things and only addresses 8. hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • garnet92 says:

      Alicia, apparently you have more problems than the article. The opt-out wasn’t “added” to the Gardasil legislation because of outcry, it was already there – it is a standard opt-out for ANY vaccination under Texas law, was there before Gardasil, and still there. The reason for comparison to Chicago’s schools was to show the hypocrisy of Arne Duncan, Obama’s Sec. of Education. Don’t even understand your “un-statement, “All the article even said was Perry in D- in immigration” what’s that supposed to mean? And as for the article only addressing 8 items, once again, your grade in reading comprehension is an “F.” At the beginning of the piece (in bright blue) I specifically state that the article had been broken into TWO pieces – did you miss that? And at the end of the piece, there is another bright blue statement that says, “Click here to continue to PART TWO of “Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry.”
      hmmmmmmmmmmm yourself. There is an old saying: “better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than speak out and remove any doubt,” you should take that to heart. G92.

  16. Ray Hause says:

    Doesn’t everyone get somewhat tired of hearing the Angry Dems. Hell, the’re ready for BHO’s shovel ready “Anger Management”.

  17. ReadyorNot says:

    @garnet92
    Thank you! I couldn’t have said it better myself.

  18. ReadyorNot says:

    @Michael
    I don’t like illegals getting free anything either. I live in Texas, I don’t like pressing 1 for english or anything else remotely offered. However, I also don’t believe each State you bear the cost of deporting the freeloaders when it’s the federal gov’ts responsibility. I see many comments like yours that complain and whine about it but you are short on a plan to correct it. Texas can’t afford to locate them, ship them all back then enforce the border. I don’t like that Perry is working with Mexico but, gees, at least he’s trying something. Come up with a better plan and I’d love to listen and forward it also! This has been an issue for decades and I’m at a loss of what to do when the government doesn’t even care.

    • garnet92 says:

      Totally agree Ready. If I could “flip a switch” and close the border, I’d do it. It ain’t that easy with the attitude of the administration. I do believe that Perry WILL address the border issue quickly. I think that his policy is that we (the country not just Texas) NEED a lot of the Mexican workers and that there needs to be some sort of worker program that allows SOME to enter the country to work, but be ACCOUNTED FOR and NOT given amnesty or citizenship without going through the same process that others before them went through – no jumping line, The process does need to be improved though such that it doesn’ take ten years to achieve citizenship by doing it right. Once the border is secure, we need to address those illegals already here. Anyone with a speck of illegality gets shipped back immediately. Hold employers accountable for knowingly hiring illegals. No more anchor babies – stop that crap at once. Those few things would stop the incoming flow of illegals in its tracks.

      • jcpickard527 says:

        It seems simple to me. We tried amnesty once, it didn’t work then why would it work now, there are many more illegals here than before we tryed the Amnesty program which is just an admission that our immigration system is broken. Make it a state jail felony to hire illegals and you will quickly see the illegals go away … Presidents/CEO’s/private citizens all subject to arrest under this state jail felony for hiring or allowing the hiring of illegal aliens. No exceptions, then enforce it, Govenors with real problems declare Martial Law for enforcement of immigration laws and utilize State National Guard resources in conjunction with Law Enforcement Officials to return the illegals back to Mexico or Canada whichever border they crossed illegally. Probable cause if you look or sound or both like Mexican decent or Foreign Decent you must immediately show identification that
        proves you are US Citizen or you will be deported (Learn to carry proper ID on you!!!) All of these things are possible if The Govenor of a state declares Martial Law against Illegal Immigration or the President of the United States declares Martial Law on a National Basis for Enforcement of Immigration Laws. All of this has to be done in conjuction with an absolute improvement of Border Security Nationwide, that my friends includes not just Canadian and Mexican Borders but also Oceans and the Gulf accesses, better electronic identification of all incomming vessel and aircraft with better controls at access points and complete electronic security and fences everywhere with monitor personnel to respond against all threats kind of like a beefed up EPIC EL PASO geographically placed thoughout the USA. All this will have to be done to stop the flood of illegal immigrants coming into this country.

      • A Mexican can apply at the Embosy at the approperat time and he can not only get a green card but also get a garrontee pay with a bus to the work area and a bus back. Jumping the border only benefits one type of employer that uses the undocumented to pay less than minimun wage and use the unregested to keep down the local wages as well.Some times after a years work insted of paying the worker ,,the employer calls INS and the poor guy is sent home without a penny. And what does the employer say “Serves him right for comeing hear undocumented”

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  20. Sapwolf says:

    Perry is a spender when you look at Texas on a fiscal basis. Palin is not. It is that simple.

    The next POTUS must be a solid fiscal conservative on SPENDING too, not just for low taxes.

    Palin trumps Perry on the spending issue and will be much more aggressive in cutting federal spending and her word is gold compared to Perry who says what works at the time rather than keeping to his principles.

    The times are somewhat different now. We need a REFORMER NOW.

    • Mrs. AL says:

      With all due respect, Sapwolf, the result of “hope and change,” didn’t work out too well. We don’t need a REFORMER, we need a RESTORER NOW. We need the limits on government respected and a President and Congress that will do just that.

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  22. readyornot says:

    Brian
    Since the Federal Government has REFUSED to secure the border and the illegals KEEP coming, Perry would rather them be educated and productive while getting their citizenship status.

  23. Conroy says:

    One last thing, If Palin used an executive order for Gardasil, the MSM and Conservative groups would of pounded her 24/7 (and rightfully so).

    Do you think she could of gotten away with “Sorry, I made a mistake. The legislature overturned my order. Can we just forget about it and move along?” HELL NO.

    Why did it take the legislature to overturn his order? From all of the flak he got, he should of overrode it with another executive order. Sounds like he was stubborn to admit the error until the legislature smacked his hands. To quote a cop, “Not sorry for the offense…sorry for being caught.”

    • garnet92 says:

      Right, and if Rick Perry had been a governor for 2 1/2 years and QUIT, there wouldn’t have been any Gardasil problem, would there?
      You guys trashing Perry aren’t doing Sarah any good. I have purposely NOT attacked Sarah. I wrote 9-10 posts in favor of her in the 2008 campaign timeframe – all favorable. But, she has been savaged by the press to the point that her poll numbers show that she CAN’T be elected – too many unfavorables – I know that she is bright and honest, but quitting before her term was up (regardless of reason) harmed her – period. I was on a Palin site today and the venom spewed at Perry (most of it completly wrong) is beginning to turn me against Palin supporters – not Palin herself, but the Ron Paul-like supporter’s demonization of everyone else. I’m just about fed up with it.
      Sarah’s resume is thin – yes, she was a governor for part of a term of a state whose entire populstion is less than SIX Texas metro areas. If the ENTIRE population of Alaska moved to Texas, it would be our SEVENTH largest metro. Please, if you want to bash Perry, keep it on a Palin site – I had to bite my tongue to keep from responding to some of the crap I saw on conservatives4palin – but I didn’t post – it was a Palin site. You aren’t converting any more Palin supporters (if she even runs, which I doubt) and are turning off other anti-Obama voters. Hate Perry if you want, but keep it to yourself.

      • Conroy says:

        QUOTE: if she even runs, which I doubt….

        Non starter. She is running. Palin has been hiring a staff and hasn’t told the O4P groups to stop (could of done this a long time ago).

        Wanna make a wager???

        http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/06/six-clues-palin-is-running-for-president.html
        —————————————————-

        Oh please, it’s been the Palin folks who of had to hold back their tongues and take a lot of crap from supposed “conservatives” and “friends”. As far as I’m concerned, Rick is a Johnny-come-lately to the party. Lets see if Rick can take a tenth of the stuff Palin has had to endure and lets see how he handles it.

        If you can’t take heat from this message board, just wait when things get really hot from the MSM and DNC. You either get vetted now or later and later isn’t pretty.

        The “quit” meme is running thin and shows a lack of knowledge why she had to step down. After the 2008 elections, Palin was assaulted with bogus ethics complaints from a small group called the “Alaska mudflats”. Complaints ranged from accepting a signed hockey stick from a pee-wee hockey team, giving a press conference outside her office to taking part in promoting Alaskan Salmon. Several complaints were from people outside Alaska and several compaliners didn’t use their real names. Once the complaint was dismissed, the repercussions to the complaint filer, NOTHING. Meanwhile, Palin was shelling out 20k-30k a pop for lawyers while the state was paying millions in investigation fees. By mid 2009, she was 500k-600k in debt and the office was paralyzed. Nothing was getting done.

        World got out to the legislative Democrats NOT to work with Palin (or face retaliation). Many Republicans, wanting the good old days of the CBC (corrupt bastards club) wanted Palin out as well and stayed quiet. Every complaint got page one, but the verdicts acquitting her were shoved in page 45, section two, paragraph 12.

        It was quite apparent was was going on…..drive Palin to bankruptcy and trash her reputation. Where was the RNC, the McCains and people such as yourself when Palin was getting assaulted? Andrew Breitbart was right…the establishment is corrupt to the core and wants NOBODY to rock the boat. Palin, being an outsider and reformer was too much of an outside threat. They left her high and dry to rot in debt.

        If she stayed in office, no doubt she would had been over a million in debt, bankrupt, and the meme would of been “Palin leaves office under a cloud of ethics complaints and bankruptcy….career is toxic and over…film at 11.” And folks such as you would of been chirping this.

        And by the way, where were you folks (Perry included) when Palin was essentially being accused of MURDER in Tucson. Seems to be a consistent theme here…Sarah helps and gets back stabbed by a bunch of ingrates.

        Also:

        1. No 2010 campaign stumping for GOP candidates begging for her presence.
        2. No Nikki Haley (before Sarah, 4th in GOP primaries with no hope of winning)
        3. No Sen Ayotte (close race in NH primary and Palin was big factor)
        4. No boost to Hernandez (NM Gov)
        5. No Sarahpac
        6. No help to Allen West or Tim Scott
        7. No getting rid of Mike Castle
        8. No stumping RICK PERRY in 2010 (folks were there to see HER not HIM) in a TIGHT RACE before her help. No Palin, say hello to Gov, KBH.
        9. No warning on death panels or QE2

      • garnet92 says:

        Partner, I’ve got better things to do than engage in a juvenile back and forth with you about Sarah Palin. She did quit, and while I am very aware of the reasons, the fact remains that she only served a little over 2 ½ years as governor. It’s not a question of “taking the heat,” been there and done that. My time is too valuable to me to argue with an adversary over Sarah Palin or Rick Perry – you’re not going to change my mind and I’m not going to change yours. Get a life.

        And as far as defending Sarah, again you assume too much. Here are the titles of pieces that I wrote FOR Sarah Palin in 2008 and 2009. They are still available at Pesky Truth at Townhall, here: http://garnet92.blogtownhall.com/ so you can see that I have, in fact, defended Sarah – in fact, two of the pieces were actually titled “defending Sarah.”

        Palin – A Demonstrably Strong Woman
        Sarah Palin – A Real Female Role Model
        Exposing Sarah Palin For What She Is
        Defending Sarah With Pesky Truth, No. 1
        Defending Sarah with Pesky Truth, No. 2
        A Side-by-side Comparison – Palin & Obama
        John McCain Sure Knows How to Pick Women
        Sarah Palin – An Alaskan Bush Pilot’s Opinion
        Sarah Palin IS Mighty Mom [of course, it's satire] (This one is 16 chapters of Sarah as “Mighty Mom”)

        Seems to me that you’ve got a fixation on Sarah Palin, so be it. Just be aware, I’m not going to respond to any more of your comments – I’ve already wasted too much on this one. You are one of a few (out of over 500 comments) that believe that you’ll do Sarah some good by ranting on against the world. Her bed is made, rant all you want about the unfairness of it all – it is what it is – get used to it.

      • Myke says:

        Keep it to yourself. Why? That is how B.O got elected. People refused to check up on anything. What’s worse is refused to listen to their own ears. They ignored Rezko, Ayres, Wright. They ignored or refused to listen to his communist ties. Just why was B.O ever chosen to run for Pres. He had nothing in his background that made him appear to be a leader. He was a nobody. Who put him in the WH. Why did they turn against Hillary for B.O. They threw her under the bus.
        As for the Bildeberg being behind the New World Order, which some of you seem to think it is some loony conspriracy, type in Hillary gives award to Walter Cronkite
        That will take you to a video of the Cronkite giving a speech about one world govt and Hillary Clinton among others was praising him. Or will you ignore and call it a lie when yu can watch it from their own mouths. You can also find a video of George Bush Sr talking about the New World Order.
        Most of America want the illegals deported. Perry wants to send them to college. We spend billions a yr on the illegals schooling, (robbing our kids when it come to education) med care, welfare, SS etc etc. Perry wants to keep them here and send them to college. They say the illegals take jobs Americans won’t do. That is BS. The casinos (SEIU) is full of illegals. So is construction. As for picking the veggies, Americans would do that too but they won’t do it for slaves wages and unsafe conditions.
        They are giving us Perry as this election’s John McCain. A man who took a dive. The only reason he was there is to keep one of our better candidates from having a chance to beat B.O. The Media and the debate monitors gave us the RINO McCain. Why didn’t he bring up Wright and the rest of the scum. He took a dive.
        And so will Perry.

  24. Conroy says:

    Perry has his good and bad points but nothing that would make me rush out into a streets to hold a PERRY 2012 sign. His bravado and demeanor doesn’t strike a chord with me….sorry just doesn’t

    I will not tolerate any “coronations” or “it’s my turn” crap, and I WON’T tolerate any lack of serious vetting (nor “polishing turds” to make “negatives look positive”).

    That last thing I want is for a GOP candidate get the kid gloves treatment only to get blasted in the general (when the MSM brings out the long knives and drops bombshells of “oh by the way Perry said/did this”). At that point, the conservative base goes “Oh no not again”, closes the checkbooks, empties the phone banks and won’t canvass the districts. Holding noses at the polling booth is a bad way to go.

    I’m for Bachmann but it Palin annouces, I’m all in for her.

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  26. sapwolf says:

    Great stuff. It shows that Perry is not the ‘great Satan’. However, it does show that he is your standard politician who does not keep the inner workings above the table.

    The difference between Perry and Palin is that with Palin, it is above the table and transparent.

    Can anybody imagine any of this nonsense happening with Palin as governor?

    No. Because she pulls the public into major issues to work on and to be openly informed so there are few if any surprises.

    Transparency is one of the GLARING differences between the two main opponents in the GOP Primary.

    On many issues they overlap, but government has grown under Perry in Texas as it has decreased (in budget terms) in Alaska.

    Of the two, Palin is the more likely to cut MORE of federal spending through her work with Congress than Perry would cut. I just don’t see Perry or Romney pushing to make the serious cuts and budget reform that will be needed. We are headed for a cliff. Of the three, Palin has the stronger record on fiscal restraint and fiscal prudence.

    Spending and Transparency along with the fact that Palin has been FULLY vetted. Note also that Palin has never been BOUGHT. You can make the case that Perry has been strongly influenced by other entities as governor of Texas.

    The times call for a reformer of next to zero blemishes to fight the growth of government.

    In this contest, it will be Palin who wins. However, if she does not run, then Perry would be the frontrunner compared to Romney.

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  28. Ray Hause says:

    U mentioned the TTC, why Gardisil, do U want ur leadership to listen or ignore U, cant have it everyway. That’s just smart politics, what about the “health Care”, 70% of the people was against it, what do we have?

  29. Foot says:

    Excellent article! Well written and well researched.

  30. Ray Hause says:

    We have for over three years been challenging everyone on Obamas lack of experience which has certainly played out since the election. Having said that, would we not be putting up another indiviual who has as little experience in Bachmann. I just dont thinks shes quite ready and we would be leaving ourselves open to the same Dem Judgements.

  31. Joe Bob says:

    Wow – in your desperate attempts to distance Gov Perry from the “accusations” made against him, you have completely validated them! Example: Trans Texas Corridor you outline that Perry wanted it, how it would result in foreign ownership of Texas Roadways and how the huge public outcry resulted in Perry eventually (after multiple attempts) letting it die. Do you think for a minute he is not the consumate politician? If he makes a move like the TTC, he is not only voted out of office, he never gets the chance to run for President. Yet he did absolutely everything possible to make it happen before realizing that doing so would cost him and his Republican dominated House and Senate their jobs. That isn’t changing your mind, that is saving your skin by turning your back on what you believe. That is what you get with Perry in a nutshell. The only astounding thing about your blog is your misguided belief that you have cleared Perry’s name from misleading characterizations when in fact you have solidified his critics claims far better than they ever did. WEll done sir!

    • There is coming a New World Order, God speaks of it in His word. You have all these high mukkie ducks meeting, and the media doesn’t report on it,This guy must think we are crazy. When i first saw Perry, I knew something wasn’t right, just like when God said that Obama was a wolf in sheep’s clothing, I don’t trust man, but i will trust God.Maybe this guy is a member of the Bilderbergs, and if he is so great , keep him gov. of Texas, don’t want him for President.

    • Myke says:

      Well said Joe Bob. In trying to spin the truth he let us know exactly what Perry is. He tried all kinds of things that he was trying to push thru for the Progressives and only stopped when saw he was going to be voted off his gravy train.

    • E W says:

      Joe Bob, just my sentiments also. I was around for the TTC and Perry stunk to high heaven for it and the smell can’t be shook.

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  33. This post is backed up by facts and sources for the data used. It would read like an objective evaluation of Rick Perry except that it’s a much-needed answer to all of the ridiculously biased reporting that passes for journalism in this country.

    Thank you for taking the time to answer all of the lies and slanderous comments.

    I keep waiting to see if any journalists will treat a Democrat, such as our President, with the same type of negative scrutiny that Republicans are exposed to. Hasn’t happened so far.

    Great post!

  34. Jon Dee says:

    My mind is at peace with Rick Perry’s run for the White House now that I have read and digested the stories that have been floated about him on the blogesphere. When Rick Perry’s name was mentioned as an attendee at a Bilderberg camporee, my first instinct was to say WTH to m’sef.

    Also attending that particular Bilderberg Pow-wow were some of those who have participated (only USA participants are listed): Presidents Bill Clinton and Gerald Ford, John Bolton, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Timothy Geithner, Paul Volcker, Terry McAuliffe, Ben Bernanke, David Rockefeller, Rupert Murdoch, Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfield, ABC anchor Peter Jennings, William F. Buckley, George Stephanopoulos, Mort Zuckerman, Thomas Friedman, George Soros, Senators Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Diane Feinstein, Tom Daschle, Chuck Hagel, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, John Corzine, and Governors Mark Sanford (SC), Mark Warner (VA), George Pataki (NY), Christine Todd Whitman (NJ) and Kathleen Sebelius (KS).

    True, most of those folks mentioned; should be taken out behind the barn and delt with in a appropriate manner. But John Bolton, William F.Buckley and George Pataki were there as chaperones.
    Let’s watch the race and may the best and brightest win.
    Jon Dee

  35. Brad Tangen says:

    Great response to the critics but I still support Bachmann. She hates Obamacare as much as I do.

  36. Ray Hause says:

    Wasn’t that also Texans money that was doled out? He had no ability not to pay up , but when there was an emergency need he refuse to help. It’s amazing just how ignorant U folks are.

  37. Ray Hause says:

    What infrastructure, Wisc. received 805 Mil,, 782 Mil. went to shoring up union pensions, and U wonder why it didn’t work.
    How much longer will ur government job last?

  38. mixedpickles13 says:

    Remember Obama? Remember “Hope” and “Change”? Remember shut down guantanamo? Remember the Iraq war was to end and everyone be out of there? Remember a job for everyone paying enough to cover their mortgage? Remember his attack on Las Vegas which led to no one going and an unemployment rate that went to 12%? Remember ????

    Remember $1.5Trillion of democrat spending added to the US debt in 2009 and, another $1.5 Trillion added in 2010 and this year, 2011, there may be $1.65 Trillion added. Are you aware that while Obama scathingly criticized millionaires and corporations, Obama gave rich corporations and rich unions $5 billion dollars to subsidize health care premiums for their early retirees — Obama did this the same time that he cut half a billion from Medicare. Remember that Obama is calling for shared sacrifice while he vacations on a rich estate in Martha’s Vineyard and he and Michelle flew there in 2 separate jets!!! Remember his million dollar home in Chicago that is standing empty while he and Michelle live in the whitehouse — he could have made it available to a homeless organization until he returns — no shared sacrifice for Obama.

    I am sure that each Perry criticism can be matched by an Obama and democrat equivalent criticism.

  39. Trevor says:

    Great response! I hate this article, b/c it makes you out to be a liberal, or a loon if you dislike Perry. Um, hello, there are over a half a dozen candidates in the GOP feild, and probably more to join soon. I just supposed to bow down to Perry at the first mention of running??

  40. yeahwRight says:

    Oh and, if Perry insists all that stimulus money didn’t work, can he please return my cash? It’s really “interesting” that NO Republican has returned the stimulus money!
    In other words, they let Obama take the fall as tax and spender, but they’re willing to take credit for Obama’s bravery: Spending money on infrastructure!

    • avafromtexas says:

      Really are a hater, aren’t you?
      Just curious……….what have you got to say about Obama?

    • Allen Fuller says:

      Bravery = ignoring reality and continuing to spend like crazy even after having maxed out the national credit card multiple times. Right?

    • Foot says:

      What are you talking about?

    • Drawer22 says:

      Fair is fair: Since the Messiah’s stimulus hasn’t worked, would the President-Designate (& current occupier of the White House) please return MY money‽‽ (Thanks for that excellent idea, yeahwRight! You may have just saved the US population from poverty!)

  41. yeahwRight says:

    Your gay defense kinda stinks: Of course any gay repub would try to hide that by being as homophobic as possible. Larry Craig, Mark Foley, George Kerker did do exactly that!
    More important is, why do you care, one way or the other.
    Don’t misunderstand me. What I say is not about him, it’s about YOUR flawed logic “defending his honor”. Awwww! Actually, that’s kinda sweet.

    On the TTC
    It’s kind of refreshing to see the various reightwing anti government groups, doing their damndest to ensure government control over some property (these toll roads)
    “By law, toll roads in Texas can never be owned by anyone other than the state and are not being “leased away.” The public never relinquished ownership of any state roads.”

    All that govt control DOES chime in nicely with Rick Perry taking stimulus money which benefited the rich, instead of the poor.

    The Texas McJobs.
    The most serious criticism on this is three fold:
    - It’s not really creditable to Perry. He didn’t have a really hard time governing Texas, never battled like Christie or Huntsman. Texas is a softball state for Reps.
    - What is really damning is that they’re mostly government jobs. the number of private jobs went down.
    http://www.chron.com/business/article/Texas-reaped-4-6-billion-from-federal-stimulus-1703404.php
    of course, Perry dependent institutions report otherwise.
    - equally important is that Perry can not apply whatever he did or did not do, nationally.
    He can’t low wage the country against it self. Cost of living in several places is too high.
    and his own party won’t stand for openly creating government jobs. Of course if he can secretly do that, he will do it of course. And with the right leaning MSM these days, I wou;dn’t be surprised if he got a way with it all.

    Oh well. Perry DOES have many, many social issues that won’t play well with Indies:
    his climate denial, his Christian Domination believes and the usual baggage a tea partier has.

    • Foot says:

      Typical of a liberal. You begin your comment with name calling:
      “Your gay defense kinda stinks: Of course any gay repub would try to hide that by being as homophobic as possible.”

      And I particularly love your take on job creation in the public sector:
      “and his own party won’t stand for openly creating government jobs.”
      You see, government jobs isn’t really ‘job creation’ but rather ‘growing government’. Because government jobs don’t produce anything. They merely increase government spending, which costs jobs in the private sector.

      • E W says:

        Foot: “..government jobs don’t produce anything…” Government CAN produce services and infrastructure and demands that fuel private industries and innovation; case and point NASA: “..put a man on the moon by the end of the decade”. FAA, NOAA, FCC…etc all provide services and infrastructure that make private industry thrive. Typical of the neo-con to throw in that falacious statement while he types away on an infrastructure that would not be here had it not been for government leadership and infrastructure and funding.

    • Foot says:

      I am also curious what this tea party ‘baggage’ is that you refer to.

      • Myke says:

        I will use B.O’s words. “Those shovel ready jobs I talked about weren’t as shovel ready as I thought” ha ha ha He and his bottom feeding friends thought that was funny.

      • Myke says:

        yes I am curious about that baggage also. We want less govt. Less fraud and corruption in govt. Less spending. Less backdoor deals. Less pols turning themselves into millionaires on our dime. More listening to the people. And we don’t mean just Dems. We want the same things from the Reps. IMO nowadays they are all crooks and look out for each other. The tea party is trying to find some honest ones. Not easy to do.

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  43. Ray Hause says:

    It might have shown some validity until the mentioning of some Ron Paul supporters. We’re on our way to nutralizing them, they have held just that one seat in Texas forever and now that redistricting has occured, there was a strong possibility that Paul would not have got through the primary.

  44. jcpickard527 says:

    Thank-You Paul Smith, if we as a country had required reparations from all countries we have saved since WWI & II, We wouldn’t have the financial disaster we are in today! You want us to save your country, the least you can do is pay back the expence involved. World the free ride is over.

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  47. Brian Frank says:

    Question to Rick Perry “Would you make College FREE to Illegals in the U.S., Like You Did in Texas?” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7pc42u-jUk

    • ReadyorNot says:

      Brian, it isn’t free. Illiegal immigrants in Texas are offered the in-state tuition rate provided they apply for citizenship.

      • sapwolf says:

        Why should they get it if they are not citizens?

      • Why should illegals get anything free or at a reduced cost? They are are after all criminals! If we would quit providing things such as free child-birth, free medical treatment and education for illegal children then they would stop coming here

  48. Rob says:

    “Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry”

    Translation: Perry’s skeletons (whole graveyard) redecorated pretty like Christmas.

    Sorry. you can’t polish a turd, no matter how hard you rub.

    • yeahwRight says:

      Oooh Rob, that’s BLASPHEMY against saint Rick. you got balls!

      • Allen Fuller says:

        Yes, here comes the mutual congratulation. Go ahead and congratulate Rob for his intelligent (2-year-old) contribution to the discussion. See my comment below.

    • avafromtexas says:

      Are you speaking of yourself here, Rob?

    • Allen Fuller says:

      This kind of thing is what passes for intelligent conversation on the Left. Go to any leftist website like democraticunderground, dailykos, etc. and you’ll see plenty of comments where people basically say “So and so is an a**hat” or “He’s wearing his a** around his head” and congratulate each other for how clever they are for using such a description. You’ll have to basically take a shower after you visit those sites, so be forewarned.

  49. John in PA says:

    To garnet92. Thank you. You are an example of what a citizen ought to be. A person who respects others but calls out those with flawed notions in the most effective manner. A person who seeks verification before spouting unfounded personal opinions. A person who seeks more rather than accepting the hearsay of people with letters behind their name. A true patriot. I would tell you this even if your content put Rick Perry in a bad light.
    You have done a lot of work here. I thank you again and I pray you continue to find energy and time to continue. I learned more in 2 hours of reading (content + coments) than I could if I listened to a month of talk radio for 12 hrs per day and watched Fox for the other 12hrs.
    There are many many outlets for the leftist drivel. The unfounded attacks will continue and they are easy to quell, but those cloaked in a smidgen of truth will get legs quickly. I pray you will keep the focus on those. I wish I could help, but all I can offer is prayer. Thanks Again, John in PA

    • garnet92 says:

      John, many thanks for your kind comments.

    • Myke says:

      It is definitely not just lefties that don’t want Perry. I am not voting for someone who makes an impassioned speech for the illegals. We want the illegals deported and he wants to send them to college. I don’t care if it is not free. While they are going to school and college, they and their families are living off the billions we spend on welfare etc. Yes lets educate them so they can take more jobs from Americans.

      • E W says:

        Texas universities are heavily subsidized by taxes…very much a socialist upper education system…oil taxes. One of the saving points for Texas providing industry with engineers and scientist, mathematicians, business leaders, doctors etc. Somebody WAY before Perry had sense and forsight. Perfect example of government policy being spot on. Perry’s education: Texas A&M…mucho tax money keeping it afloat.

  50. ChiefEngineer says:

    I believe the Gardasil controversy came from the advice of Perry’s wife, Anita. She is a lifelong professional registered nurse and health care executive. She is very much her own person, and known to be thoughtful, kind, but direct and earnest. He would never had endorsed this course of action without her blessing. He admitted his mistake-which if I am correct-was on the advice of a solid expert, his wife.

    Concerning the large budget increases, more important than a raw number is what and how the money was spent, how much of it was mandated, e.g., Federal Law, etc., and is it possible to calculate or estimate how much of this money facilitated new jobs, industry relocating, start-ups, etc.

  51. Ray Hause says:

    My God, why didn’t you stop after the statement “I’ll hold my nose”.

  52. George Vreeland Hill says:

    If it was not for Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry would be the worst candidate out there.
    That includes both parties.
    He is wasting his time and has no chance.
    I live in New Hampshire and I can tell you that Perry has no chance in this first in the nation primary state.
    By the way, I once lived in Texas.
    Bye Rick.

    George Vreeland Hill

    • garnet92 says:

      George, please let Governor Perry know so he won’t waste his time and campaign funds. I can’t believe that you think that he is even worse than Obama? Wow. Thanks, G92.

      • avafromtexas says:

        Garnet, that type will never be convinced. Closed mind, snapped shut. They come in with a shut mind, and facts don’t mean a thing.

        Thank you for your work, again. And, your extreme patience.

    • Ray Hause says:

      Why even have a Republican Party in New Hampshire, in fact the whole Northeast. When a Republican gets elected, he votes to Democrats, Republicans in ur area are the same as bluedog dems.

  53. Aristides says:

    I’d also like to know more about the claims that he doubled state spending during his time in office. That certainly doesn’t scream “fiscal conservatism.”

    http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/06/first-look-rick-perry.html

    • garnet92 says:

      I have been too busy to finish an addition relating to economics. It’s started, but just barely. I don’t know when I’ll finish it, but when I do it will be updated into the “17 things” piece.

  54. Aristides says:

    I think it’s a mistake to dismiss concerns about Bilderberg. When Obama met with the President of Mexico a few years ago, it was front page news. Until the conspiracy theorists exposed Bilderberg, however, mainstream news never gave it a mention (even when Media CEOs were invited as participants). We’re talking about a who’s who of world players, and nobody uttered a peep! Even now, the only coverage it gets is an occasional article that has a sensational headline about conspiracies, but goes on to say that it’s silly to worry about the worlds top politicians, bankers, and CEOs meeting in secret to discuss policy, outside the formal legal channels of their respective governments. Many of the key participants have strong ties to globalist groups like the CFR, the IMF, the WTO, and the UN. These are people who favor government collusion and UN resolutions over national sovereignty. I can only speculate about what goes on in those meetings, but I don’t think I’m nuts for harboring very strong suspicions that it ain’t good.

    Back in 2008, some tin-foil hat types told me that Perry was going to be President, because the “shadow government” of Bilderberg had hand-picked him. While the vernacular of the “shadow government” was a little dramatic for my taste, I have no doubt that the Bilderberg participants network and make backroom deals to support the political ambitions of those who are most willing to further their interests. Oh, unless, of course, I’m all wrong and the leaders of the Western World are only meeting in private to have crumpets and tea, while talking about the weather.

    • garnet92 says:

      Aristides, I’d say that I’m curious, perhaps even suspicious, but over my 74 years, I’ve seen a lot more evidence of evil doins’ coming out of the United Nations than I’ve seen sttributed to Bilderberg. All of those movers and shakers from all over the world doing things that some aides must be privy to and no evidence of their hands in anything? That’s my problem. What are they gonna to do to elect Perry? Stuff ballot boxes, cause the other candidates have “accidents,” all the while staying hidden? Color me unconvinced. G92.

      • Aristides says:

        I agree the UN is bad news, but the Bilderbergers ARE the types who actively support the UN. I’ll also agree with you that it’s not likely the Bilderbergers can simply coronate a new king and ignore the election process, but I don’t think anyone would deny that media and money can exert a strong influence on the outcome of elections. Just look at Obama. Did he really have any qualifications? Did anybody know who the heck he was when he first started? It’s clear that there was a push among many media elites to see that he was recognized as a legitimate player. If they had simply marginalized him as the dictatorial despot that he is, do you think he’d be in the White House today? It’s obvious that the Bilderbergers exert influence over the media. Otherwise, in a world that goes camera happy every time Brittney Spears shows up at a gas station restroom, Bilderberg be all over the papers every year, with everyone trying to speculate about the agenda and the possible implications of the guest list.

    • zerrubabel says:

      Tin-foil hat types! The MAD HATTERS…in-stead of the RAEL McCoys! That is RICH!

      Let’s put “jupiter back in a bottle”…melt it all back to tin! If they only “had a heart”…da-da-da…da-da-da-duh!

      Wasn’t there an E.D. drug commercial…on t.v. a while back…about “stop HIDING in the SHADOWS…get your life back.”

      Crumpets and tea? The ALICE in WONDERLAND…”spinning tea-cups.”

    • Myke says:

      Aristides you are exactly right. They are a ‘shadow government” and it has been going on for decades. These are the most wealthy powerful people in the world and they need to talk to Perry about the economy. What a joke.

  55. jcpickard527 says:

    ARW, no quotes to prove anything you say? Anytime someone says 100% on anything they are automatically questionable in their statements. The schools are bad in Texas, the schools are worse in Chicago Illinois … India, England, and Japan before the Earthquake just to name a few kick all of our schools in this country right down to where we belong at the bottom. So you really picked a poor bully pulpit to shine your brightness on. They still teach real history, math, science, social studies, reading and writing skills in the countries mentioned … in the USA because of political correctness they no longer teach history they teach fiction, Math is good as you have a computor, heaven help the student that has to explain how they got an answer they don’t have a clue …. Science just look at Al Gore ” the inventor of the internet ” and “Global Warming” and you can see where our science program has gone … Nothing is, as it should be, in the world of education in this country, it is down the tubes with no light at the end. I won’t address the rest just get real.

  56. ARW says:

    I used to believe this was all there was, then I learned that Conservatives use omission as one of their weapons to make other Conservatives believe their crap. Why don’t you tell us how many vetoed bills were Republican-only supported compared to Democrat-only? Why don’t you mention the pro-corporate record of the Texas Supreme Court judges he’s appointed, and that it’s led to corporations flocking to the state (that’s the source of the job “boom”). I didn’t notice his academic record, either.

    About 95% of this article is correct. Conservatives use this much truth to make the lie palatable, and that was on the education issue. I live in Texas, and the students here have been getting dumber and dumber since I graduated 20+ years ago. I had friends who were *brilliant*, went to A&M, and came back unable to spell or speak coherently. The numbers you cite for Texas as recent are actually from 1999–I’ve seen the numbers because of how many teachers I’m friends with. Even one who went to A&M agreed with me on this. On that issue, the non-conservatives are 100% correct.

    I’m not saying non-conservatives are always 100% correct, but they’re right much more often than not. For example, I never debated that Perry is not gay, but you’re approach is very literalistic–another problem that causes your misconceptions. The “gay” issue is not literal–it’s an attack, nothing more (in most cases), and one I don’t approve of or participate in because some end up taking it seriously, in error. This literalism has led most of you Conservatives to make many more mistakes that you think are the truth, and yes, a few liberals, too.

    I was raised Conservative all-around, but when I started learning these things, I went to the left. I’m hoping that you and everyone reading this sees these errors, too, and straighten yourselves out.

    • garnet92 says:

      Friend, apparently you’re suffering from that dreaded malady that you attribute to “Texas A&M”, ignorance. NONE of the numbers that I cited for Texas were from 1999. The only 1999 numbers relative to education that were cited were the numbers debunked by Politifact as having come from the Wisconsin teacher’s union. The numbers quoted from the National Report Card (a Dept. of Education operation) were from 2009 and the numbers relating to high school ratings were from a Newsweek article from 2011. And you say that “I didn’t notice his academic record, either” well if you had read the companion piece to the critical piece (only takes one click), you would have found Perry’s entire college transcripts at the end of that article. I’m not going to waste any more time going into Perry’s veto record. You are likely as wrong about that as you are about the rest. G92.

      • ARW says:

        And now I notice you jumped on defending the one thing I actually attacked. Typical Conservative behavior, protecting the lie and not addressing the rest.

        My information came directly from teachers, of which ONLY ONE was from A&M, and she agreed with the rest. One is a Yugoslav refugee with a Masters in U.S. History, and another is from Washington–hardly a selection to sneeze at. They all agree that it’s been getting worse each year for Texas students. And I’m not familiar with Politifact.

        And if you’re not willing to “waste any more time going into Perry’s veto record”, you’re proving you’re just not willing to go into anything that could prove you wrong. It’s not *that* hard, really. In fact, it’s the kind of research that dragged me to the left.

      • garnet92 says:

        And like a typical liberal, you conveniently ignore the errors you made in your accusations. Can’t defend them can you? You note three teachers – and you base your charges on three? Now, you’ll come back with something like “I know dozens who agree” or something like that. Hell, I only know two teachers and they both disagree with you. So there.

        OK, put up or shut up, YOU do the legwork on the vetoes and post your pithy analysis here. You yourself said that “it’s not “that” hard” so do it. Show all of us “ignerunt” conservatives how smart you are. I want to see a real analysis (’cause I will check your work) of Perry’s vetoes of bills as being totally partisan.

        And Politifact was promently mentioned in my piece as refuting the Wisconsin teacher’s claim, did you read anything?

    • JBD says:

      Fascinating, this critter thinks there is something wrong with corporations.

      Next I suppose he’ll inform us that corporations pay taxes or something equally outlandish?

      Regarding the education issue, all you are saying is that student anywhere in the US have been getting dumber. I think we are all well aware of this. It’s the education unions feathering their nests rather than showing concern for educating students. That is not necessarily under a governor’s control.

      {o.o}

    • AvaGreen says:

      AGW, somehow I just don’t believe what you say. I’ve read too many of these type comments from the uninformed and who have been brainwashed by liberal teachers.
      Your comments indicate that IF you were raised in a conservative household you learned little. Not knowing about Politifact is telling, as is the hearsay he uses as proof……..probably doesn’t know what that is, either?

      Perry has faults and admits them……make him human! Not like the sociopath in the WH who lies to keep from admitting he’s lied, even when the facts are in front of his face.

      Thank you, Garnet, for the research you’ve done on these issues, which facts you provide support your statements.
      Some of this I’ve known and have forgotten. I’m glad it’s in one place for easy reference.

      • Ray Hause says:

        Who is verifying that which is being posted as fact, some would say it reads as though it came from the WH or DNC but then to we have a group that talks half Republican, votes half Republican and post comments like Dems. Some of these folks are paranoid, “spooky dudes”-Bilderbergs–My God. Using the same comments that some have been posting, read a rebuttal and then come back on here and make some of these comments. When one makes a post he should also give us his choice, can get far more info from that little tidbett.
        http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/ricks-perrys-negatives/
        Take some time and read, even as educated idiot can learn something.

  57. jcpickard527 says:

    Sooth, definitly not a George Soros person, you only had two criticisms concerning the 17 issues covered; but the two areas covered were truly an extreme social leaning. Fortunately I live in this state and pay my own way and can say maybe your numbers need to be reworked and perhaps you need to look at some other numbers but I will give you a B- for the effort and yes, I have lived in many other states (10) so have a good feeling for what is working and what is not. I like not having to pay a State Income Tax. The poor pay little to no Property Tax (This states primary tax source) and no Franchise Tax as most do not own businesses in Texas, so before you discard this as a factor best look at the numbers again.

  58. JBD says:

    The original post remarks about Perry’s friendship with the Aga Kahn, the leader a “minority sect” of Shi’ites. Minority translates to second largest sect of Shi’ites in the world. And like ALL followers of Mohammed he, too, is deeply in favor of the only law of the land being Sharia law. There is a problem with Sharia law in its huge inequities to non-believers and women. Under Sharia law a woman who is raped must have four male witnesses to testify for her. Forget about forensic evidence. It doesn’t matter. That means if she complains she is flogger or stoned to death depending on the presiding Imam’s notions. If she does not complain it means she had sex with someone other than her husband. If the family finds out, she is killed to preserve the family’s honor. There is a specific exemption from punishment for this in Sharia law. As a woman I rather obviously find this utterly utterly wrong. I am not “tilth” for 2:223, :”your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will”. (That’s sura 2 verse 223 in any translation of the Qur’an.) That is utterly unacceptable under our law which must NEVER be allowed to approve something in Sharia law that violates our law. As I mentioned, some courts are approving such things already.

    {^_^}

    • This is a giant strike against him also!! Why was this not mentioned in the above article?

      • garnet92 says:

        Michael, if you’re referring to in-state tuition for illegals, it is covered in #14 in Part 2. Maybe you just missed it. I’m not for it either, but it’s not a deal-killer. And the blame for that state law doesn’t fall entirely on Perry either – there were NO dissenting votes in either the Texas House or Senate – it was unanimous.

        I don’t think that any of us tax paying Texans WANT to pay for illegals births, treatments or education – but unfortunately, that’s the FEDERAL law. Best way to fix it is to elect conservatives to POTUS, the U.S. House and Senate. That’s the only fix.

  59. jcpickard527 says:

    Pamela, good job venting and I agree Rick Perry was wrong with his support of the Cancer Medication. I think he was ill informed early on by his own staff and didn’t vet his constiuency as well as he should have. Push comes to shove regardless of the motivation he finally saw the light and changed his way. This should be a plus in his column, he recognized that the voting public was against it and the change took place, unlike our current President who couldn’t recognize a freight train heading full speed ahead on a collision course with American and will never change until we fire him. Politician that can change and vote the peoples conviction and not there own are the ones I want representing me. There is no way, that any politician will always see eye to eye with the American People on every issue, all we the American People can hope for is that they will realize they are representing the American People not their own self interest. As one final statement to everybody, remember if you fail a candidate on a single issue then you will not be able to vote for anyone and that won’t help this country at all, weight all the facts then make your decision on what is best for the country, not what is best for just you.

  60. Wyldkat says:

    Teresa in Fort Worth, TX says: “the ONLY way someone can get Shingles is if they had Chickenpox at some point in their life”

    This not wholly accurate. I have never had chickenpox, however I have had Shingles – in the same arm that I had the vaccine when I was a child.

    They are starting to see instances where people who have had the vaccine develop Shingles – which when you consider that shingles is caused by the virus lying dormant in your body, and the vaccine is made from the virus shouldn’t be too surprising.

    • E W says:

      I think you are confusing smallpox and chickenpox. You probably have a smallpox vaccination on your arm, not a chickenpox vaccination and you could have had a mild case of chickenpox that never really manifested and thus never knew it.

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  62. garnet92 says:

    Actually did visit your blog Jerry and you and I are on the same page politically – especially when honoring our military, veterans, and first responders. Good stuff! G92.

  63. If you really want to know who Rick Perry is , and his record.. please read this detailed artical of the 17 thing you should know about Perry.The crazy thing about this artical is that Most, if not all you Libbys have already made up your mind and really DONT care about the truth.To those of you that do read it thanks for taking some time to get educated on the guy you are spending so much time bashing.

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  67. darogers says:

    Oh, and one other thing–the Texas legislation Perry signed is in violation of two separate federal laws, both of them passed by the Republican Congress in the reform summer of 1996, and signed by Clinton.

    One of those laws was sponsored by a Republican Congressman from Texas, noted immigration hawk Lamar Smith.

    After he signed the illegal alien subsidy, Perry crowed about about the legislation and its benefits to illegal aliens. You can read his speech on the subject here: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/

    Perry: “We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, ‘we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.’ And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.”

  68. darogers says:

    I think the 17 reasons post is a good one.

    But on the one I know most about–Perry and illegal immigration, it is actually worse than you know.

    Very few people know, though it is the subject of current litigation, that the Texas “Dream” Act is worse than that of any other state in the country. Texas doesn’t just allow in-state tuition to illegal aliens that it denies to Americans. Texas pays Ca$h grant$–what it calls “Texas Grants” of up to $20,000 per illegal alien ($5,000 per year).

    The Texas legislation was signed by Perry in 2001 (and expanded in 2005), and vigorously defended in 2007, 2009 and 2011 against Republicans seeking repeal or modification. No other Republican has signed legislation this radical. Only ex-Clintonista Bill Richardson has signed anything equivalent.

    On this issue, Rick Perry is FAR–VERY far–outside the American mainstream. Not even John McCain is this far left on subsidies to illegal aliens.

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  71. Drawer22 says:

    Well spoken! Evenhanded and diplomatic.

  72. jcpickard527 says:

    Agreed. As I said in my original statement I will not make a decision based on a single issue, the candidate that I agree with the most accross the board of issues is the one I will vote for. The gun issue is one that I would like to see him personally address a bit more so that those of us that do believe heavily in this right like Sarah Palin for one who supports the issue closest to my own beliefs.
    We all need complete disclosure without politics as usual to understand each of the candidates positions on all issues.

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  74. jcpickard527 says:

    PaPa Ray it would be nice but I don’t know if the Sarah is going to be willing to be on another ticket as number two … if she were able to modify her personality a bit to stop agrivating Republican and Independent voter women I would like it better and I like what she has got to say, I just don’t always like the way she says it …. too much sarcasim for a lot of us.

  75. jnials says:

    Oh, I agree, the information shouldn’t be kept. But don’t blame Rick Perry for that one. That’s the Keystone Kops organization that we call the ATF, and the Department of Justice.

    I suspect the current policies of the DoJ wouldn’t last long under anybody that Perry picked for Atty. General.

  76. jcpickard527 says:

    Thanks for correcting me, yes you do not have to register your weapon, until you buy a new one then the police get your information and friend by all means feel comfortable with that if you will but the ATF knows you have it and several other Alphabet troopers know about it and those records are permanent and you are traceable … that is a problem especially if things in this country keep going South. I should be able to buy anything with out leaving a record unless I hit immediately on background check at that point I should be put on hold, but those queries should be invisible and not available to anyone except the clerk and to others if I fail the background check. if I pass the background check no one should have a record. No one should have a record of what weapon I bought … that my friend is the way it should be. Again thanks for correcting my initial mis-statement. If I haven’t committed a felony or been judged insane you have no right to my information under the US Constitution! My interpretation and I don’t care if you like it or not.

  77. jnials says:

    You don’t have to register your guns in Texas. There is a background check unless you have a concealed carry permit. There is no open carry except for licensed peace officers. The license is not to own guns, it is to carry them concealed. Whether you like that or not is a separate issue, but let’s get our facts straight.

    Here’s a quick summary, but you can find this information spread out over dozens of sites:

    http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_tx.htm

  78. jcpickard527 says:

    I like Perry on most of the issues. I don’t like his lack of a strong stance on Gun Ownership( still shouldn’t have to have a license or register my weapons with anyone if I haven’t been convicted of a felony or been declared insane !!! That is the stance I am looking for. But, I am not a single dimensional citizen either … so the kind of article we have read here is good and we need a lot more like this news blogger to fairly report both sides of the candidate. Yes, I know he is for Perry but I think he also has tried to report the sources for and against in all cases. The responses for the most part are an attempt to respect the blog. The first thing I note from reading all the responces is their are way too many single issue people out there. I dare say, no matter who you vote for they will have some matters of record you will be concerned with …. but somewhere you decide your vote based on a balance of what is best for this country on how the candidate stands for all the issues. For me it was simple Obama stood for very little that I believe in and McCain stood for about one half of what I believed in so I voted McCain and still stand by that decision. I don’t care what George Bush stood for he is in the past he is History as are all the other past Presidents. All I can judge now are the candidates that are running decide which one is most like how I want the show run and vote for that candidate. All sourced information is really great because I don’t have to take the word of the author but I can go to the source and evaluate the validitity or lack there of, of the source.
    I would question many of the respondents on this site as to what are your sources??? I see bigoted, racist, biased, foolish and undocumented statements in responce to a person that did a pretty good job of looking around (yes, I did go to all of his sources and view the information presented) and (no I didn’t agree with all his conclusions, but I didn’t see any grievous errors in his conclusions either). So how about you folks pay this person the respect due and give us your sources if you find a statement on one of his sources that is incorrect, thanks for keeping it civil.
    Finally, look at all the different stances presented here and add some creditibility to yourself by addressing more than one issue …. such as (I don’t like Obama Care and am looking for a candidate and his solutioins for ending Obama Care) I do like his stance on no new taxes and would like to here his tack on what that statement means to him (i.e., deregulate so that federal taxes will not be passed back down to state, and local government because the fed is not going to tax it but still require the issue so that states and locals will have to pay for it), what is your solution for social security, medicare and medicaid? Will you grandfather it? For how many years?
    This cite can continue to be really useful, if each of us will conduct ourselves without bias, insults, or intimidation and we do maintain a respectful, sourced debate. Thanks

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  82. archerb says:

    I took your advice and asked two public school teachers what they thought of Perry. One teacher works at an elementary school in Central Texas. The other works at a high school in East Texas.

    Both love Perry.

    They love Perry because of the job he does as a whole, not necessarily how he treats teachers. When I ask about their opinion of what they are paid, they mention that they make a living, but, of course, would like more. I ask them why don’t they quit and get a job that pays more. They tell me that they are teachers because they love the job, not the pay. If they were after money, they’d quit being teachers and get jobs in the private sector. Teaching offers rewards beyond simple dollars. I suggest you consider that option and stop using greed as your only justification for you job.

    If you are in teaching for the money, I don’t want you teaching my kid.

  83. Holly Hansen says:

    Thanks for all this research. We need more Conservative bloggers/voices doing this kind of work. Kudos!

  84. archerb says:

    Like the article said, the reason it was “mandatory” was to force insurance companies to pay for it. If it were optional, as it is now, insurance companies WON’T cover it. So, Rick Perry made it mandatory in name only as it was easy to opt out of.

  85. John Noble says:

    Garnett, the research that you present has a lot of “facts” but the conclusions are frequently misleading. For example, even with the argument that Texas is a “weak governor state” Perry still has the bully pulpit. He could have been dogmatic on many essential issues and raised public awareness about both federal and state issues that he was opposed to based on principle. He could have and should have raised holy hell about things that he believed the state legislature to be wrong about. He could also have stopped federal usurpation of Texas States Rights using 10th Amendment power that he claims to believe in. Either he does not have moral courage to put his political future on the line by taking a stand on controversial issues or he lacks the discernment to understand the fundamentals of those issues. Just one example of a key Texas issue that is also a very important national issue that he should have taken a strong stand on and has not done so is:
    ISLAM: He should be literally screaming at the top of his lungs about the fact that Muslims are NOT protected under the 1st Amendment because Islam and Sharia are inseparable. The Quran and Sunnah (Hadith and Sira) are the basis for and the compose the legal code called “Sharia Law” that ALL Muslims must follow. Segments of Islam or individual Muslims who don’t (the Ismailis) should not call themselves Muslims, otherwise they ARE complicit with Sharia to some degree. I understand that not all Christians follow the tenets of the Bible, BUT Perry should recognize the fact that NO, NADA, NONE can call himself a Muslim and have true patriotic allegiance to the flag of this country or the U.S. Constitution. They ALL seek and are gaining waiver from America’s Judeo-Christian customs, culture and heritage under the guise of “religious exception.” They bluster and threaten and demand to be treated differently, as in Dearborn, Michigan. Europe’s open borders policy has diluted Great Britain and the Netherlands core issues of national sovereignty and national identity to the point where Sharia law tragically now runs in tandem with and is rapidly replacing their national laws, customs and culture. They lack a 1st Amendment to protect them. Our 1st Amendment was specifically designed to protect us from tyrannical religious government, which is the very essence of Islam. Islam is an international crime syndicate with a religious front that has ALWAYS plundered the wealth of nations and been responsible for the deaths of 270 million people over the past 1,400 years. I hope that Perry is just ignorant on the subject, but having observed his acts of omission of and commission for almost 12 years, it is far more likely he is just another member of the crop of Sharia-compliant politicians who lack the spiritual IQ and/or moral courage to honor their oath of office. Read the Muslim Mafia by David Gaubatz, Robert Spencer’s books or website (www.JihadWatch.com), go to Daniel Pipes (http://www.danielpipes.org/), Bill Warner (http://www.politicalislam.com/) or David Barton (www.wallbuilders.com) for the truth about Islam’s grisly history and current march to undermine our Constitution through subversive organizations like CAIR. Our first 4 Presidents had to deal with Muslim pirates and reluctantly paid “tribute” money to the tune of 16-22% of the national budget to these monsters to keep them from pirating our merchant ships when we were a fledgling nation without a navy and unable to defend ourselves. When Adams and Jefferson went to England to negotiate terms with their Muslim representative, they asked him WHY Muslims attacked unarmed merchant vessels, especially when the America had done nothing to provoke such attacks. They were told that it was because the Prophet Mohammad commanded them to attack the Kaffirs (non-Muslims) and subjugate them, i.e. make them either convert or pay the jiza (tax). God help us if we don’t find leaders who will identify and take drastic action to eliminate the domestic enemies among us. Deportation is both humane and practical, having been used by at least 3 U.S. Presidents and a host of foreign leaders to preserve the domestic tranquility of their nations by removal of incompatible segments of their societies. To do that would take MORAL COURAGE, the thing that is LACKING in our political leaders. We need to take a hard right turn to restore our Constitution and put Fedzilla back in the cage of Article 1, Section 8 where it belongs. Rick Perry has not demonstrated that kind of leadership and fits right in with the RINOS that took us to the party.

    In spite of the fact that the 2nd Court of Appeals in Ft. Worth routinely refer cases pertaining to Muslims to the Sharia Court of Texas, Perry has not said a word about the Platform Committee at the 2010 Texas Republican Convention approving a relevant platform under the title “Preservation of Republican Form of Government” which urges “the Texas Legislature and the United States Congress to enact legislation prohibiting any jurisdiction from allowing any substitute or parallel system of Law, specifically, but not limited to, Sharia Law, to be recognized which is not in accordance with the Constitutions of Texas or of the United States of America.” This is typical of Perry not making waves. He has demonstrated by his silence on important issues where is heart is. He is not a true conservative, and that is most unfortunate because we need a true statesman, and not just another politician.
    Vote for a Constitutional Constructionist, whoever that may be, and let God take care of the results.

    • D.M. Zuniga says:

      John, your tirade is incoherent; silly, even. In the first place: did you know that Roman Catholics and Calvinists used to burn plain Christians at the stake, and drown them, after convicting them in a religious ‘court’? Well, it’s true. But they don’t do that anymore. Nor can any American follower of the lunatic cult leader ‘Mohammed’ put any other American to death, or even whack him (or her) on the heat with a big stick, without being subject to exactly the same assault/battery/attempted murder charges that anyone else is subject to.

      The kind of ‘religious court’ actions that American law courts will not interfere with, have to do with *cultural*, *ceremonial*, or *church tradition* practices that Baptists, Pentecostals, Methodists, Roman Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, Episcopalians, etc wish to ‘legislate’ for their adherents who belong to that ‘faith tradition’ of their own accord. If the thing gets wierd and lapses into physical or emotional abuses, or anything covered by that state’s penal code or civil laws (as it once did with Roman Catholics, Calvinists, and Mormoms, for instace) then the perpetrator is open to a civil suit or criminal indictment.

      Your hair-on-fire assertions about Mohammedans taking over America are as wholly unfounded as your assertion that Governor Perry “has demonstrated by his silence on important issues where his heart is. He is not a true conservative.” You haven’t heard him speaking publicly of Christ’s Lordship, as I have. You haven’t heard him publicly asking forgiveness as an obstinate people before the Lord, as I have hard him do. You have not, apparently, read his book “Fed Up!”, as I have, nor have you listened as he has not backed off one inch from any of the hard, principled stands taken in that book, as the liberal media and so-called ‘conservative’ Bachmann, Romney, and Ron Paul have bashed him for it.

      I don’t know who you’re really for, John, or what you really seek. I know that I seek the godliest and most adept president possible in this lunatic age. Rather than worrying overmuch about The Second Coming of Saladin with his turban a flaming fire, I’m worried about the foolishness parading about this land, as “known facts” [sic].

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  87. Artist says:

    Thank you for all your research and for concisely answering some lingering questions I had about Rick Perry.
    I was a lifelong Democrat and a delegate for Hillary Clinton (!!) before Obama, the DNC and the Chicago machine came after her and gifted Obama with the nomination. After this the scales fell from my eyes, I experienced an epiphany and am now a Conservative.
    I believe Obama has self destructed and so many of those besotted by his HopeyChangey BS simply don’t care anymore, the fire is out of those bellies and Obama is simply not cool anymore…I pray the Republicans don’t shoot themselves in the foot….again.
    I am excited by Perry…and hope to G-d he wins the nomination
    Thanks again for all your work

  88. James Inman says:

    I won’t support Perry because of his coddling of Illegals.
    I believe that when Illegals are identified as “Illegals” the only the legitimate option is to immediately deport them, not offer them a price break on education.

    • D.M. Zuniga says:

      James, we in Texas would go out of business overnight if we didn’t have Mexican nationals working here. I’m talking about probably 75% of the Texas farm and ranch economy, and much of the service sector as well. It’s just a fact of life.

      If all the damned whiners that don’t want Mexican laborers in America would give up their government checks (all sources, except money you actually had taken from your paychecks in past years), then I might listen to their whining. Most of them are welfare queens and union slackers that don’t want competition for freebies.

      Now if you want to deport REAL “illegals”, I’ll tell you what, since you’re so damned hot to deport somebody. Will you please deport those 525* people in Washington D.C. who are committing about $2.8 trillion per year in ILLEGAL activities? Yes; that’s the approximate total of Congress’ expenditures for powers, regulations, departments, offices, agents, projects, programs, etc that are nowhere allowed by us to the federal government under Article I Section 8, or any reasonable extrapolation thereof. They just got their henchmen to skim America’s payroll accounts and it’s a tsunami of cash, so they have to spend it.

      Well, they also skim those accounts to sop up the excess liquidity of that counterfeit, worthless, paper Federal Reserve-branded scrip that they fraudulently refer to as “dollars” — to forestall the inevitable inflation attendant to any counterfeited money.

      But it’s ALL illegal, according to Article I (Sections 8 and 10) of the Supreme Law of the Land. So in terms of sheer size of the crimes, I’d say those are your REAL “illegals”; and unlike the 12 million Mexican laborers out there, those 525 would be real easy to find and pick up.

      Go get the real illegals; I’ve identified them for you, and you can check this year’s federal budget, line by line against the U.S. Constitution, just to make sure. Come on, tough guy; your “legitimate option” awaits you.
      —————–

      *We’ll assume for the sake of argument that there are ten members of Congress who have actually honored their oaths of office and vote consistently against all bills that authorize an expenditure not found in the Supreme Law’s enumerated powers. There may even be 20; but the vast majority of Congress is violating the law, supporting or at best looking the other way at multi-trillion-dollar racketeering, every day.

  89. Gary P says:

    Rick Perry would be a disaster for America. He’s OK as Governor because the legislature and us Texans can watch him like a hawk watches chickens. In DC they’d let him run wild.

    We’d have amnesty, no controls on spending, and a crony capitalism on par with Obama.

    I only voted for Perry in 2010 for two reasons One KBH would have been worse, and two Sarah Palin asked her supporters to, because SHE understood KBH would have been worse too!

    When 2012 comes around Sarah Palin has my vote. She’s a real Conservative and has the record to prove it. She was the best governor in the country on debt and liabilities, and left Alaska with a $12 billion surplus. There’s a reason why she had a 90% approval rating.

    Rick Perry has been a fiscal disaster. Hell, even Mitt Romney is better. How sad is THAT!

    During the fiscal years for which Sarah Palin exercised budgetary authority as Governor of Alaska (FY08 through FY10)

    • Debt outstanding increased 12.7%, or 4.2% per year

    • Per capita debt outstanding increased 7.4%, or 2.5% per year

    • Total liabilities DECREASED 34.6%, or 11.5% per year

    • Total liabilities per capita DECREASED 37.7%, or 12.6% per year

    During the fiscal years for which Rick Perry exercised budgetary authority as Governor of Texas (FY02 through FY10)

    • Debt outstanding increased 184.2%, or 20.5% per year

    • Per capita debt outstanding increased 140.4%, or 15.6% per year

    • Total liabilities increased 60.6%, or 6.7% per year

    • Total liabilities per capita increased 35.8%, or 4.0% per year

    Read a comparison between Huntsman, Palin, Pawlenty, Romney, and Perry:

    http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/governor-palin-leading-the-fight-on-debt-and-liabilities/

    BTW, for those of you who still think Sarah is going to sit this out and endorse Perry, Sarah tweeted this article to her millions of supporters.

    • sapwolf says:

      I laugh out loud when I read or hear people saying Palin will endorse Perry or Bachmann.

      Not gonna happen based on Palin’s OWN words and actions.

      She’s running, and there will be no other strong candidates after she joins the primary.

      It will come down to Romney vs. Perry vs. Palin, and then it will morph into Romney or Perry vs. Palin as the Establishment Rino’s go up against the Tea Party Grassroots along with social conservatives.

      Perry will start to portray himself as the ABP candidate (anybody but Palin). His hope then will be that Romney supporters will join his side as opposed to Palin. That may work in Texas, but not in northern states like Ohio where Palin is polling well and is not even in the race yet.

      Perry is not as good as everybody makes him out to be, and is not as bad as everybody makes him out to be. He’s just……a politician from a state that we in the other 49 frankly have had enough. Time to look outside Texas this go-around. It was a Texan combined with a Marxist that got us in much of the mess we are in now.

    • D.M. Zuniga says:

      Gary, you’re letting love cloud your reasoning. Yes, Mrs. Palin is very attractive, but is abysmally qualified for the office of POTUS, she’s a NeoCon war-hawk, and her negatives are higher than her positives in almost every demographic group. When she was fresh on the scene, I was taken with her myself (part of it was plain male attraction, I think) but after a year and a half of hearing the same ‘Sarah-isms’ and understanding her deep affinity for military ‘strutting’, I grew weary of “Mama Grizzly” in the tight sweaters. She’s no president; never will be. Give up your fantasy.

  90. JJ Coolay says:

    I don’t understand this. Is this supposed to be smear??? Where is the gay community crying foul on this?? (Not that I believe it anyway).

  91. JJ Coolay says:

    Boy oh boy. Can one dream that big?

  92. JJ Coolay says:

    Carl, 2 points on Gardasil: 1st, Perry did back off after it was obvious people did not want it. That’s a good thing and shows he can listen and learn. But equally as important, Perry is a major proponent of states rights and as commander in chief, he would not be dictating state policy. I don’t see government activism based on this.

  93. JJ Coolay says:

    Nice work on this piece.
    It’s disheartening to see many conservatives being fed tidbits and news bites and running away with those headlines as if that was the full story. This article really helps debunk much of the misinformation already spreading like wild fire against Perry. Great work!

  94. Jim Lundberg says:

    Rick Perry made a decent Governor, but Ron Paul will make a better President at this time in history. We need to stop all our wars: Now. I was in Pararescue and my friends are in harms way in 5 separate wars, 3 of which this administration started. I think Rick Perry is pretty much are reincarnation of George Bush, and I for one was not even close to being satisfied with his performance. These wars are just to justify money being consumed by the Military Industrial Complex. I simply think Rick Perry will continue them while Ron Paul will, and I promise you really will, end these wars immediately. We need to consolidate and protect our homeland, not everyone else’s. Think about it, a Tea Party leader ran against him in the last election and now he is trying to claim leadership of the “Tea Party”. Most of the the Tea Party people don’t even know that they are being manipulated.

    • D.M. Zuniga says:

      Ron Paul will not make a better president, because he can’t win the office. He has failed twice, and is NOT even running for the office anymore. He knows he can’t win.

      I believe that he is building the ‘Paul Family Brand’ dynasty in Congress at the expense of his ragtag retinue. If he was only trying to get his ideas across, that would be fine. For instance, I agree with you about America’s war machine; so did President Eisenhower in his Farewell Address; so does decorated Vietnam veteran and former West Point instructor Andrew Bacevich in his book “The New American Militarism”.

      But it’s not just about his ideas being rigtht; it’s that he leads his followers to believe he can actually be president, when he has no intention of filling that office. Anyone who knows him, knows that he could never go for the average U.S. president’s schedule of diplomatic activities and such. It’s not in his “prophet” blood.

      Yet here goes Ron Paul again…cruelly leading his followers on. Imagine all those poor atheists, anarchists, anarcho-libertarians, classic Libertarians, evangelicals, constitutionalists, and conspiracy theorists — terribly disappointed. Again.

      ———-

      I seek solutions, not imperial saviors in the White House. I believe Perry would come closest to the mark among those who have any real chance of winning. Unlike Ron Paul’s 30 years of tilting at windmills in Congress, Governor Perry has opened the public debate about the retained powers of the STATES over the overreaching federal power. He may be the next Andrew Jackson if the Tea Party gets behind him if he beats Obummer, because Perry has opened that critical subject as well.

      Although a president can do little more than be a figurehead and champion (can you say “Aggie Yell Leader”?) against a century of criminogenic Leviathan, Rick Perry does have the mix of talents and character to accomplish that much — if backed by a few million very driven citizens.

      I unpack the thesis is this article:

      http://thisbloodlesslibertythebook.blogspot.com/2011/09/exposing-fools-gold-standard.html

  95. Lisa says:

    Incredible research! Thank you very much. I live in TX and yet I learned a lot. Thank you for pulling all of this together. I’m going to share on my blog!

  96. Wade says:

    I would have to agree with Sylvia. Rick Perry is the muslim friendly version of GW Bush. You have have to ask yourself, if GW Bush ran against Obama in 2012 who would win? That is then the answer to the question, can Perry beat Obama? Instead of asking your conservative friends at bible study what they think of Rick Perry, broaden your horizons, and dare to ask the liberal 20 year old at the starbucks you frequent his or her thoughts on Mr. Perry, that is the demographic that will put Obama over the top again, the only candidate in the republican field that interests them is Ron Paul. If Rick Perry, somehow wins the nomination, those who voted for Obama, will vote for him again, for the same reason……….they hated GW Bush.

  97. kristalball says:

    thanks for your work on getting this info. Although I disagree with you on the Bilderberger thing. Just the fact that you published some of the names that go, indicates strongly of conspiracy.
    But as you said, he went once, and perhaps he changed. I hope so. It sure would be refreshing if there wasn’t a governor that truly was NOT part of the controlling system that is on elected officials. I ‘d like Perry to answer about it.

    • garnet92 says:

      kristalball, I am interested in knowing what evidence anyone has that shows that the Bildergerg group is up to no good. I’m not picking on you – several people have made similar comments and I am genuinely interested to see some real evidence. What have they done? Who has done things in their name, etc. I’d really like to know. G92

      • Kathy Wilson (Grendma Kee) says:

        For a complete exhaustive explanation of the master plan to rule the world by certain elite families, read the book “Hope of the Wicked” by Ted Flynn. It it the best, most comprehensive documentation I have read of collusion by the Bilderbergs, the CFR, & others to destroy our Republic & replace it with a tyrannical system which will eventually lead to a one world government. I am not a “Conspiracy Nut” but I see what is happening in our country & it scares me, especially for my grandchildren & great grandchildren. I’ve been around a while & I have seen how our freedoms are being slowly eroded & our children have been conditioned by our public schools to accept it as a better way. Rick Perry is not the only one who is probably buying into the direction the elite want us to go, but, if what you said about him is true, some of the things he has tried to do lead me to believe that is exactly what he is doing. By legitimizing illegal immigration, we are only gaining voters for the “what can gov’t do for me” Socialists. The highway from Mexico through the US to Canada is the beginning of plans to join North America in an unholy alliance like the European Union (and look where that has lead). His lack of leadership on gun ownership will just hasten the disarming of the citizens which makes us easier to control. The other issues you have exhaustively researched pale in comparison to the ones above which could lead imminently to the demise of our Nation as we know it. He backtracked on some of these issues, as you said, but why was he thinking of them in the first place! If we have to watch him constantly, then we don’t need him in Washington. Look what has happened in just the short time Obama has been in office. We are on the brink of financial collapse & I’m not sure we will be able to pull ourselves out. I am not necessarily anti Perry; he’s probably the best bet to beat Obama in the current field. I don’t know who is the best candidate the Republicans could pick. My philosophy meshes mostly with Ron Paul, but I don’t think he is electable. He has that doddering old man look about him, which I find comforting, but most young people don’t. I’m afraid Romney is more big government, & Bachman & Palin, whom I agree with politically, are too pretty (if you’re better looking than Hillary, forget it, you’ll be eaten alive). So, there you have it, we have some soul searching to do. But, PLEASE, everyone needs to read “Hope of the Wicked” before they make their choice. It’ll open your eyes. And the fact that Rick Perry was in the same country while the Bilderbergers were meeting demands an explanation!

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  99. Malclave says:

    Came here from Pajama Media… some good information. I’ll probably end up bookmarking it at home so I can refer to it when I see the accusations crop up.

    One concern remains, though… you say he went to A & M?
    (Sorry, bad joke. I lived in the Panhandle during my Junior High and High School years, and “Aggie jokes” were a mainstay of what passed for humor. Of course, as I recall, the rest of the state considered the Panhandle to be almost a part of Oklahoma, so…)

  100. Great job;very informative post and great comments. I wish we could get this kind of information on all of the candidates. The mainstream media doesn’t do it’s job and sadly we have to be lucky enough to come across posts with the quality of research you have provided. I probably wouldn’t have come across this if it hadn’t been posted on twitter.

    Anyway, I agree with the overall sentiment of most of those here,and the big but is the Islam issue. We don’t need a POTUS who will pander to Islam in anyway, as even Bush did under his DOJ and now Obama continues to do. I have faith that Perry is a true Christian, unlike Obama;since I still question Obama’s loyalty and faith. Therefore, I do believe as a strong advocate of Israel I think Perry can be trusted, but still need to learn more about his support of any Islamic group because many can lie&deceive under taquiyya[sp?].

    Right now my eyes and ears are open,but my mind is critical of all until I can be sure we have a true conservative ready to beat Obama. However, I do believe Perry has the advantage over other current candidates&think he has the ability to raise the most money to take on Obama.

    • Gary P says:

      About Raising money, Sarah Palin will be the star. Hailey Barbour, no real fan, told the media the other day she’d be able to raise enough money to burn a wet mule. That’s a fair amount of money.

      Her pack raises good money, and does it in small donations, not big money guys.
      She’s got well over 3 million supporters on facebook alone. Many have pledged the max the second she announces. If it averages out to just a couple of hundred a piece that will be the money bomb to end all money bombs.

      Money isn’t going to win this election anyway. Ideas and a person’s record is.

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  102. Randy says:

    I appreciate the eforts of the author in researching the facts about the claims against Perry. I have not selected a candidate yet, however, I hopefully will make my decision on actual facts, vs MSM drivel and Administration muck racking and ‘ Possible Slander” disguised as envoking ” Freedom of Speech”, as long as it is the MSM saying it. One can only hope that we have a change for the better, since we are so deep in the pit, we may never get out.
    ( Oops, I forgot ,Bernake will do QE3 and we will be saved!)

  103. JBD says:

    Kevin remarked, “It is true that Texas municipalities have beeen racking up a lot of debt recently. Some will argue that it is partially because the state shifts burdens to localities,….”

    That is why any CCB must also include a prohibition of cost shifting to the states. If the federal government mandates something it must also fully fund it in fiscally and actuarially sound ways.

    (And there probably should be an emergency escape clause from the spending limits in case of direct enemy attacks on the US – and nothing else.)

    {^_^}

  104. Thanks for posting this ! It answers a lot of questions !

  105. getalifesteebo says:

    Great article.

    And ignore Steebo. He’s a regular Palin nut on pretty much every Conservative blog. He’s hear to crosslink his blog in the comments, nothing else.

  106. jd says:

    repost same article as post 2 with all your content and link back to this one for those who wish to read the comments. Will speed up the blog redendering.

    You have room to spare those. My scroll bar slider is not a thin mint yet.

  107. jd says:

    It’s more of a case he wanted to do something quick and the only way to do it was to abide by some gross current vaccination laws. The price of that vaccination was outrageous. And the need for it dubious. It was a black mark on his record.

    With Facebook requiring everyone in the world to post non anonymously a serious inroad is being made in freedoms. The nanny state and big government loves this Facebook idea. The regular citizen should mark such supporters as un american in their very basic nature.

  108. jd says:

    Sylvia, while the domestic ideas of Ron Paul appeal to me, Ron Paul is ok with every single person outside the US owning and shooting a nuclear weapon as long as it is not at him. He is extremely short sighted internationally and would lead us into WW III

    • Paul Smith says:

      We have neither the right nor the financial ability to continue to be the World’s cop. If a nation wants a U.S. base on their soil, they should pay every dime of the cost – period.

  109. jd says:

    Ben, the United Nations is a much bigger problem for us than the bilderbergers. Look at the whos who for bilderberger and it includes a lot of people on both sides of the isle. John Bolton was there I believe. Does that make him a marxist? Bolton has been to Russia also and talked extensively to the Russian leadership. Does that make him a tool of Putin?

  110. befuddled says:

    The one criticism of Obama: He’s too awesome for us mortals to be graced with his presence.

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  112. Gary Sollner says:

    Enjoyed your comprehensive review. I have hundreds of conservative-pro constitution & Christian FB friends. I like Perry. I plan to use your data to in defend the criticisms. I am from Texas. I would definitely appreciate any write up you do on the “Positives” of Gov. Rick Perry.

    Many out of TX state FB friends are asking us …. who is Rick Perry, what kind of guy is he, what about (any criticism) they have heard about him.

    I’ve already been asked by one local banker friend for info from your article so she can better defend against criticisms of him.

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  115. cmblake6 says:

    With the proper looking at of those things which may have been in the slightest questionable in Perry’s past, I have no hesitation in voting for him. Most were my suppositions verified.

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  117. Walt C says:

    Well done analysis. But you say numbers 9 & 10 like they are a bad thing. Well I guess to a liberal it is. But to me, those are a plus.

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  119. Kevin says:

    It is true that Texas municipalities have beeen racking up a lot of debt recently. Some will argue that it is partially because the state shifts burdens to localities, so they will still point to Perry being a source of that debt.

    I’ve been finding it difficult, though, to get consistent numbers on the Texas deficit. I think it’s safe to say, though, that it’s growing, and is considerable. The Sunshine Review provides some numbers: http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Texas_state_budget

  120. Allen Fuller says:

    Can you address the issues with the Convergen Lifesciences “crony capitalism” being brought up now in the blogosphere and by the WSJ?

  121. LLL says:

    Excellent article. The only thing I thought was missing were some of the decisions over the State Board of Education’s decisions on evolution and intelligent design usage in new textbooks. Yes, the Board is independent of the Governor, but as the dirt starts to fly, look for this issue to be brought up and used against Perry as well.

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  123. Paul Zummo says:

    Excellent pair of blogposts. As someone leaning towards Perry but who still has questions about him, based in part of mixed reactions towards him on the part of my conservative Texas relatives, this is incredibly helpful.

  124. Jon says:

    On immigration, you failed to mention that Perry opposes the border fence, which he has called “nonsense”, and opposes E-Verify, which he has said “won’t make a hill of beans difference”. NumbersUSA gives him a D-.

    • avafromtexas says:

      Perry doesn’t oppose a fence. In fact, he’s built one where it can be built. For the rest of the border it can’t be built because it would have to built in the middle of the ever changing Rio Grande, or in the ravines of Big Bend National Park. Not possible.
      Get your facts straight here.
      Regarding E-verify:
      “I agree that some kind of electronic verification system is needed so we can make sure employers comply with the law not to hire illegal immigrants. E-Verify is a federal government created and run program, and as a result there have been a number of problems with it so far. The Department of Homeland Security estimated the system could fail to identify more than half of all illegal immigrants,” he said.

      “But just because it has problems doesn’t mean we should throw employee verification out,” Perry continued. “It means we should make it work. Employee verification needs to be accurate so American citizens aren’t denied jobs based on bad data and undocumented immigrants don’t slip through the system.”
      http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/06/perry-addresses-conservatives-concerns-about-his-immigration-stance/#ixzz1arjLUpnA

      NumbersUSA gives him a D- based upon what? The erroneous reports about how we handle immigration in Texas that I keep reading over and over? Does it use the white-supremacist, hate-group and racist Center for Immigration Studies for it’s figures, which I read constantly as proof?
      http://www.splcenter.org/publications/the-nativist-lobby-three-faces-of-intolerance/cis-the-independent-think-tank
      http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Immigration_Studies

      • Ray Hause says:

        Some of these folks think our border is like looking across their back yard, many are Section “8″ yards. They certainly have no idea as to how NumbersUSA derive their grades, thought I had informed them of that in a previous post. What we can guarantee you are that this brilliance comes from a disgruntled Libertarian or liberal. If the Paul and Medina folks would move on, it certainly would help.

    • avafromtexas says:

      You obviously didn’t read the part on this site about this grade:
      As of 9/5/2011, NumbersUSA has issued Rick Perry a grade of “D-“. Mitt Romney also gets a “D-“, and for what it’s worth, Ron Paul gets an “F.” President Obama gets an “F-“ – an F-minus? I certainly would agree with the grade given Obama – or maybe it should be a “P-,” for “present”?

      Though not (yet) running, Sarah Palin gets a “D” and Herman Cain gets a passing “C-“. The only leading candidate for the GOP nomination to get a good grade was Michelle Bachmann with a “B-“. Those are the headlines.

      • Ray Hause says:

        Should anyone not know how number’s gave a grade it was based solely upon statements that the candidates had made recently. Should anyone want to obtain a higher grade he/she simply modify their statments and grades were to be updated every week. Wished I could have had that grading system, I would have qualified for Harvard or Yale Law.

    • Ray Hause says:

      Jon, You obvisously have never visited the border are of Texas as well as reading the joke of a grading system by Numbers USA. Which Libertarian group do you belong, they are great beleivers of smoking ——.

  125. yeahwRight says:

    your remarks on his gayness make no sense. It’s EXTREMELY necessary for a gay republican, especially one from texas to hide his possible gayness with anti-gay legislation.
    why do you even care whether he’s gay?
    And the people calling him gay and the one calling him a homophobe arent’ the same.
    Also, if you’re only gonna allow people on your blog that AGREE with you, you’re not really that brave and apparently you don’t trust the power of your own arguments
    Perhaps you should change your name to Very Convenient Truths

  126. Mike Carasotti says:

    Nicely done.

    Re: #13…nobody has asked obama about Larry Sinclair.

  127. steebo77 says:

    Yes, you doubted the debt numbers. You wrote: “I’d appreciate it if you’d provide the source of the numbers, it’ll be helpful when doing the research – I need to know that your figures are factual.” If you would have bothered to click through to the link and scroll down to the bottom of the page (to the “sources” section), you would have seen the links to the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFRs) of the various states discussed, which I provided to back up my data and analysis.

  128. steebo77 says:

    The Son of Liberty, you are flat-out wrong. From the article you cite:

    “Local borrowing accounts for almost 85 percent of public debt in Texas, because the government is so decentralized. Combine state and local borrowing, and Texas ended fiscal 2008 with $216 billion in total debt, up from $98 billion in 2001, according to census figures.”

    If local borrowing accounted for 85% of $216 billion in 2008, then State of Texas borrowing accounted for 15%, or $32.4 billion, in 2008. The numbers I provided at pa4palin showed total State of Texas debt as of 2010 amounting to $35.7 billion. That is perfectly in line with the article you cited (but apparently did not bother to read). The numbers in jayfradd’s post (which are taken directly from my analysis) relate only to State of Texas debt, and do not include any other municipal debt. That is why I was able to find them in the Sate of Texas’s Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports ( http://www.window.state.tx.us/finances/pubs/cafr/01/index.html , http://www.window.state.tx.us/finances/pubs/cafr/10/pdf/96-471-CAFR2010.pdf ).

    Bottom line: in 2001 (Bush’s last fiscal year) total State of Texas debt = $12.561 billion and in 2010 it = $35.692 billion. That is a total increase of 184.2%, or an annual increase of 20.5%. During the same period, population grew at about 2.0% a year and inflation ran at about the same rate as population growth.

  129. steebo77 says:

    Why didn’t you allow my lengthy response, which incontrovertibly refuted the earlier post by The Son of Liberty, using the website that he linked to, be published? Afraid of the truth?

    • avafromtexas says:

      @steebo, you do your candidate a disservice being so combative. She lives by Christian values and was my first pick until I realized that the MSM had done a job on her which would dog her in the 2012 election. She’d be dealing with that for the majority of her race, which would weaken her message.
      Even if you don’t approve of ANYONE but Palin (it seems) being the candidate, wouldn’t you rather a conservative in office rather than Obama? Even using your own website, he’s among the top as far as growth is concerned.

      What gives with conservatives that cannibalize each other? The left is laughing their heads off. Their work is being done for them by such in-fighting.

  130. Thank you for your article. As a supporter of Perry for President since before he announced, I have heard many of these accusations, though I hadn’t heard of the Illuminati one until now, and didn’t know how to respond to them. I had done some research, particularly on the Gardisil issue, but not to this extent. I now will be able to intelligently debate people who don’t like Perry, and I hope to turn some people to our side :)

  131. A Mark Gambee MD says:

    Dear all,

    I am a staunchly conservative orthodox Roman Catholic, married to a staunchly conservative Evangelical Christian, and both my wife and I are physicians. I have never voted for any candidate in any election that was not the most conservative possible candidate. It was an abrogation of proper strict conservative principles to “mandate” Gardasil vaccination. That said, many vaccines are required for school attendance in many states, and it is not possible to opt out of them. Texas law would have allowed parents to opt out of this vaccination. Admittedly, most other vaccinations are aimed at preventing highly communicable diseases that rapidly infect whole populations. Nevertheless, mandatory vaccinations are the norm, and states considering mandatory Gardasil vaccination is hardly unprecedented.

    My wife and I are having our 11 year old daughter immunized with Cerevix (a new alternative to Gardasil that we believe to be more efficacious), but would have have had her vaccinated with Gardasil had that been the only alternative at the time. We are also having our 10 year old son vaccinated with Gardasil (the Gardasil vaccine protects men against human papillomavirus (HPV) as effectively as it does women).

    The comments on this site seem very intelligent, but I still feel compelled to ask, please spare me the comments that this is tantamount to telling my children to not have sex, but, if they do, to use a condom. It is not. It is about their health and well being. They are being vaccinated against Hepatitis B, Diphtheria, Tetanus, acellular Pertussis, Polio, trivalent inactivated Influenza, Chickenpox, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Haemophilus influenzae type b, Pneumococcal conjugate, Rotavirus, Hepatitis A, Meningococcal conjugate, quadrivalent, and Meningococcal polysaccharide. One additional unnamed vaccine hardly makes an impression on their psyche.

    Rick Perry’s public health instincts were correct, but they should not have trumped his conservative instincts. He has admitted he was wrong. This was a small mistake, that Perry has acknowledged. Romney-care is a public policy catastrophe, and one he refuses to acknowledge; he is either dishonest or he believes this is good policy. Either bodes poorly for a Romney presidency.

    If we are lucky enough to control the presidency, Senate, and House after the 2012 elections, we will have until the 2014 midterms to turn this ship of state around. It is going to require honest, decisive, and clearheaded leadership from the president to accomplish this. I think the choice between Perry and Romney is clear.

    God Bless America.

    • Harry Eisenberg says:

      It seems that we Americans are a conservative people by nature, and we need a
      president who REFLECTS OUR VALUES! GO, PERRY, GO!–straight to the White House!

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  133. steebo77 says:

    If you doubt the numbers, your concerns about their veracity are easily put to rest. All sources are listed in the link ( http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/2011/08/palins-record-on-debt-and-liabilities.html ). Scroll to the bottom of the page to access them. All of my numbers come directly from Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFRs) of each state.

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  135. steebo77 says:

    No, it is ONLY debt for which the State of Texas is obligated.

    From the article you cite:

    “Local borrowing accounts for almost 85 percent of public debt in Texas, because the government is so decentralized. Combine state and local borrowing, and Texas ended fiscal 2008 with $216 billion in total debt, up from $98 billion in 2001, according to census figures. (The latest census data for local debt is 2008.)”

    All government debt (state & local) amounted to $216 billion in 2008. Of that, 15%, or roughly $32.4 billion, was strictly State of Texas debt. The number I show for State of Texas debt as of the end of Fiscal Year 2010 (August 31, 2010) is $35.7 billion, in line with your source. Assuming that was still roughly 15% of the total, all state & local debt in Texas would have been about $238 billion.

    When Perry took office, State of Texas debt was only $12.5 billion. By 2010, it had increased 184.2% (meaning it almost tripled). That’s an average annual increase of 20.5%, during the same period in which population growth averaged 2.0% and inflation averaged about the same.

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